tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8494309285043063074.post1080474597739395414..comments2024-03-26T19:02:26.847-07:00Comments on Amway - The Dream Or The Scheme?: 8-12 Hours A Week To Freedom?Joecoolhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09121920263105613498noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8494309285043063074.post-83771825913309162782012-06-06T10:51:29.900-07:002012-06-06T10:51:29.900-07:00Jonathan from Indiana, why did you remove all of y...Jonathan from Indiana, why did you remove all of your comments? Something to hide?Joecoolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09121920263105613498noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8494309285043063074.post-26293170448073129122012-06-01T16:09:06.429-07:002012-06-01T16:09:06.429-07:00Hi Jonathan,
I wish you well. I hope you will wa...Hi Jonathan,<br /><br />I wish you well. I hope you will watch your expenses. My upline (same as your upline apparently) will raise the bar on you and expect you to spend more on tools as you make more. Amway is an opportunity, yes, but it's a poor one. If you read the fine print on how many people go diamond, it is closer to 1 in 20,000. So 1 in 20,000 earn six figures? That's nothing to get excited about. More people earn 100K working a job. <br /><br />If you make it to diamond, that will be great for you but your downlines will be losing money so you can "make it". I for onoe could not live with myself under those conditions. <br /><br />I wish more people were successful in Amway. But they aren't and many uplines lie and deceive people in the process. It is why I started this blog.Joecoolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09121920263105613498noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8494309285043063074.post-35903751832550026022012-06-01T15:46:46.444-07:002012-06-01T15:46:46.444-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Jonathanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16820129545566661954noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8494309285043063074.post-90459231546627211812012-06-01T15:45:06.237-07:002012-06-01T15:45:06.237-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Jonathanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16820129545566661954noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8494309285043063074.post-47359988398979361402012-06-01T15:22:31.272-07:002012-06-01T15:22:31.272-07:00Jonathan, there is no such thing as residual incom...Jonathan, there is no such thing as residual income in Amway. If there was residual income like Brad Duncan or Dean Kosage or other Diamonds talk about then why aren't they retired.<br /><br />People who are retired or have a residual income don't need to speak at major Functions or speak at smaller Amway gatherings, let alone make money from tools, if they have residual coming in or retired.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8494309285043063074.post-54433208176181890482012-06-01T10:38:41.682-07:002012-06-01T10:38:41.682-07:00Jonathan, seeing checks means nothing. Someone ca...Jonathan, seeing checks means nothing. Someone can have a big check and spend the whole thing on expenses. So you know someone who retired at the age of 33? Really? Retired because of income from Amway? And he's not working the business? How would that work, given that Amway's retention rate is so low? Less than 5% of IBOs are around after 5 years. That doesn't sound residual to me. <br /><br />Yes, some people do make money in Amway. but being in the top one half of one percent might make you a platinum, where you work hard and don't make much. I was right below platinum and my net was zero. What about all your downline? You would be okay making a profit while most or all of your downline suffer losses?<br /><br />Yes, Amway will pay you as per the compensation plan. So will other companies that pay their sales force. But you are also restricted by Amway's rules such as no advertising. How do you build a sales empire person to person?<br /><br />If you broke 6 platinums legs, they will pay you. But you can't retire. Platinums quit and lose their groups with great regularity. Even diamonds have quit. That tells me that there is no residual income. Why would a diamond quit otherwise?<br /><br />Hey, if you want to build Amway, go for it. But just know that there's about 1 diamond for every 20,000 IBOs or so. Have you even sponsored downline yet?Joecoolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09121920263105613498noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8494309285043063074.post-33949491744427847472012-06-01T07:47:59.192-07:002012-06-01T07:47:59.192-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Jonathanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16820129545566661954noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8494309285043063074.post-69205299108300448742012-05-31T22:36:19.524-07:002012-05-31T22:36:19.524-07:00Joe,
The Diamond "kingpins" such as Ro...Joe, <br /><br />The Diamond "kingpins" such as Ron Puryear, Terry Felber, Bill Hawkins, Brad Duncan, and Bill Britt, are paper tigers - charismatic liars and blowhards, each in their own way, who cannot substantiate their representations about "the business." They will answer to God one day for their actions - maybe not in this life, but they will answer. (Maybe one day in this life in a deposition?) In the meantime, I am thankful for resources like yours for people like Jonathon and I. <br /><br />--DanielAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8494309285043063074.post-33840357774376245322012-05-31T20:31:29.117-07:002012-05-31T20:31:29.117-07:00Jonathan, I admire wanting to keep the wife home, ...Jonathan, I admire wanting to keep the wife home, and to build a future... One thing to consider though; If you saw how much platinums and ruby's really work, they aren't all that "free." Board plans every night on top of all the other things going on, just to keep their business intact. You can't make platinum,ruby or emerald then go sailing off into the sunset, every one of your downline would quit. They ALL depend on you. It's a job, there's no way around that. They don't vacation or anything, because they have to be "all in." There's ALWAYS a price to pay no matter what.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8494309285043063074.post-45118342546021780302012-05-31T10:13:06.704-07:002012-05-31T10:13:06.704-07:00Jonathan,
How do you know if anyone in Amway earn...Jonathan,<br /><br />How do you know if anyone in Amway earns $150,000 in residuals? Has anyone opened their books and showed you their financials or have you seen copies of checks and slides of someone's porsche or mansion? If people could earn $150,000 and "walk away", aren't you curious as to why nobody seemingly does it? <br /><br />Truth be told, there might be a few old timers who earn a nice income and could disappear with a nice income. But what is the prospect that you will be one of them? Amway's own numbers indicate that less than one half of one percent ever reach platinum and the platinum level is where people begin to break even or make a small profit, depending on how dedicated they are to the system of tools and functions. <br /><br />There are many other options that are more lucrative. In fact, for the vast majority of people, a second job is a better option. Cutting back and living a more minimalist lifestyle might help you bring your wife home if that's what you desire. <br /><br />There really isn't much in this life that will allow you and your wife to stay home and do nothing while money rolls in. What makes you think that Amway will allow you to do that?Joecoolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09121920263105613498noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8494309285043063074.post-40587434155947274962012-05-31T06:12:55.005-07:002012-05-31T06:12:55.005-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Jonathanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16820129545566661954noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8494309285043063074.post-88671992233617281332012-05-30T13:49:27.265-07:002012-05-30T13:49:27.265-07:00Jonathan, I wish you well, but I also urge you to ...Jonathan, I wish you well, but I also urge you to monitor your income and expenses. I was in your shoes at one time and I had a pretty big group. Attrition takes its toll and many people don't do much and then the expenses start to mount. It's easy to have best case scenario projections but what happens if it doesn't come in as projected? I eventually made a business decision to quit because the time, money and effort didn't make amway a good return on my investment.Joecoolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09121920263105613498noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8494309285043063074.post-20171745973962100432012-05-30T12:51:27.643-07:002012-05-30T12:51:27.643-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Jonathanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16820129545566661954noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8494309285043063074.post-10273733523652535102012-05-30T11:11:37.713-07:002012-05-30T11:11:37.713-07:00Jonathan, based on what you post, you earn less th...Jonathan, based on what you post, you earn less than minimum wage for your efforts. If you are attending functions and buying cds, etc, then you are making even less or taking a net loss for your efforts.Joecoolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09121920263105613498noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8494309285043063074.post-28166384584668056522012-05-30T09:35:15.746-07:002012-05-30T09:35:15.746-07:00Being that the odds are pretty much the same, I...Being that the odds are pretty much the same, I'd take the lottery ticket. Better to be out a buck than thousands of dollars with the same odds.<br /><br />The whole Amway myth of tying "hard work" to success in the business is bullshit. There are thousands of stories of those who got into the business gung-ho, plugged into the brainwashing, did everything EVERYTHING that their upline and so-called "tools" told them to do, only to find they were getting nowhere. The odds are too great to make it in the business by "hard work" alone. Overpriced products sold in pity purchases to family and friends, as well as self-consuming, won't bring "success". The whole game is to be a good enough liar and have no conscience for dragging in other people who will lose money so that you can step on their backs trying to climb out of the pit the "business" puts you in. That is hardly what I would call "success". No more so than calling the drug cartels or the mafia "successful businesses". <br /><br />The big money in this business is in selling the "tools" and "functions" to fresh suckers with the same old lies that they bring success. And only a select handful are allowed to do that.<br /><br />~DaveAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8494309285043063074.post-52820900935481242632012-05-30T08:10:46.537-07:002012-05-30T08:10:46.537-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Jonathanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16820129545566661954noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8494309285043063074.post-69226017632464018992012-05-29T12:50:13.735-07:002012-05-29T12:50:13.735-07:00And a person can also win the lottery if they have...And a person can also win the lottery if they have a ticket. That is also the truth.Joecoolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09121920263105613498noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8494309285043063074.post-53881190333228425292012-05-29T12:21:30.930-07:002012-05-29T12:21:30.930-07:00The truth is a dedicated business person can be su...The truth is a dedicated business person can be successful with amway but there has to be a lot of time and some money dedicated to the business and that's where the scheme is but the truth is a person can be sucessful!lendrp84https://www.blogger.com/profile/10353839348410157389noreply@blogger.com