tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8494309285043063074.post2075399154381587851..comments2024-03-26T19:02:26.847-07:00Comments on Amway - The Dream Or The Scheme?: Amway Motivation?Joecoolhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09121920263105613498noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8494309285043063074.post-55028228598834856042016-03-16T16:37:30.357-07:002016-03-16T16:37:30.357-07:00Come and see what? The non-existent new Diamonds?...Come and see what? The non-existent new Diamonds?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8494309285043063074.post-29731868819391512102016-03-15T19:27:40.416-07:002016-03-15T19:27:40.416-07:00Because you would never come and see Because you would never come and see Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04827359839954896056noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8494309285043063074.post-51286281805422178022016-03-15T18:18:45.553-07:002016-03-15T18:18:45.553-07:00My upline platinum sponsor told me to do my resear...My upline platinum sponsor told me to do my research. I guess he expects few people to do it because he was shocked when I asked him a bunch of questions. <br /><br />So now at meetings they say "why would you believe what some random person says on a blog" Not realizing that they are kind of a random person telling me not to believe a random person on the internet. The events are kind of funny. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8494309285043063074.post-24306506458178591072016-03-14T09:53:42.997-07:002016-03-14T09:53:42.997-07:00I would also note that I don't know of many ne...I would also note that I don't know of many new diamonds popping out of the US.Joecoolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09121920263105613498noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8494309285043063074.post-8213787246290837472016-03-14T08:31:39.041-07:002016-03-14T08:31:39.041-07:00When Amway starts up in a new area or country, the...When Amway starts up in a new area or country, the growth happens quickly. That's because it's something novel, people don't know much about it, and there's a groundswell of enthusiasm from naive persons who are sucked into the "quick wealth" promises of the business. Naturally, it's easier to become a Diamond under those conditions. <br /><br />Only later, when reality begins to sink in, do people realize that Amway is just a smoke-and-mirrors cover for a pyramid scheme. Then the growth slows and eventually ceases. Diamonds fall out of qualification, and new Diamonds don't develop. If the government steps in to examine the fraud and regulate it, the game is over.<br /><br />That, in a nutshell, is what happened to Amway in the U.K.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8494309285043063074.post-44856554602942981912016-03-13T16:30:18.304-07:002016-03-13T16:30:18.304-07:00Funny how regulations hurt Amway. especially when ...Funny how regulations hurt Amway. especially when actual sales are required to customers.Joecoolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09121920263105613498noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8494309285043063074.post-18725999324245767982016-03-13T16:29:00.650-07:002016-03-13T16:29:00.650-07:00Yes, person to person sales is a dinosaur and outd...Yes, person to person sales is a dinosaur and outdated mode of sales.Joecoolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09121920263105613498noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8494309285043063074.post-9293944786169237962016-03-13T08:27:39.570-07:002016-03-13T08:27:39.570-07:00Many of the older up-line (especially the dinosaur...Many of the older up-line (especially the dinosaur diamonds and older platinums and pins) are not especially Internet-savvy. So for them, telling someone "Don't go to the Internet" is do-able, because they themselves aren't used to using the computer for research.<br /><br />Of course, this won't work when dealing with younger persons, who go to their computers regularly for quick access to information. It would be like telling our parents not to use the telephone.<br /><br />Amway, despite all its repeated bullshit about being "a forward-looking, 21st-century enterprise," is actually a rather clunky, creaky, clattering old contraption from the late 1950s. And the basic mindset and culture of many of its old-guard up-line reflect that.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8494309285043063074.post-32202508297811928592016-03-13T01:54:48.291-08:002016-03-13T01:54:48.291-08:00The uk gouvernment cracked down on amway some year...The uk gouvernment cracked down on amway some years ago forceing lower prices , curtailing tools organisations and insisting on teansparency on reel incomes of ibo s. What amazes me is that at that time there we about 30 diamonds who built the business when prices were outragaeous and ibos were ripped off on tools. Since the new laws uk has not had one diamond and those in place at the time are all gone except oneAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8494309285043063074.post-29206649849301348792016-03-12T18:06:54.222-08:002016-03-12T18:06:54.222-08:00Yes, but oddly enough, that's what uplines sti...Yes, but oddly enough, that's what uplines still tell their prospects.Joecoolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09121920263105613498noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8494309285043063074.post-5851731063529583032016-03-12T18:06:20.079-08:002016-03-12T18:06:20.079-08:00Good to see you Rocket! Yes, I remember Shaun b...Good to see you Rocket! Yes, I remember Shaun boldly making many claims. I even recall the one about buying a home in cash. But he was taught well. He doesn't complain about Amway and has probably blamed himself for the failure. I feele bad for him. His upline really gave him some bad advice, (Cashing out his 401K)Joecoolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09121920263105613498noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8494309285043063074.post-79210493159074966462016-03-12T18:03:51.817-08:002016-03-12T18:03:51.817-08:00Yes, by not buying tools you would have a slim cha...Yes, by not buying tools you would have a slim chance to make a little money.Joecoolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09121920263105613498noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8494309285043063074.post-3504921439773128482016-03-12T10:12:55.311-08:002016-03-12T10:12:55.311-08:00A sponsor telling the prospect not to go to intern...A sponsor telling the prospect not to go to internet or google in 2016 is plain absurd. The prospect will end up searching the web about mlm and will find out the lies and deception of this so called "business". Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8494309285043063074.post-16622929434067883992016-03-12T06:41:38.828-08:002016-03-12T06:41:38.828-08:00Funny how the big Amway defender Shaun Guthrie fro...Funny how the big Amway defender Shaun Guthrie from Edmonton, Alberta seemed to think motivation was important when he was buying it from Brad Duncan in WWDB.<br /><br />Now that he is out of it, his Woodworking venture seems to do just fine using Facebook as a communication/advertising tool. I wonder why he isn't using voicemail or motivational rallies to spread the word?<br /><br />https://www.facebook.com/CaskWoodworking/<br /><br />I emailed him asking if he made a cutting board for his buddy Brad Duncan yet, but he didn't answer.<br /><br />Classic and Typical ex IBO behaviour. Braying like a jackass about how everyone else was lazy/stupid/short sighted working a Jay-Oh-Bee in a passive aggressive way.<br /><br />History clearly shows who was misguided. The motivation is useless. The business should be profitable enough without the motivation so it isn't required for success. Since the products are of poor value, the whole scheme is a loser of a business model.rockethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07580342641830116887noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8494309285043063074.post-83725941323542497722016-03-12T04:03:33.118-08:002016-03-12T04:03:33.118-08:00I read many of the posts. Surely this is the best ...I read many of the posts. Surely this is the best business ever. The products are many times more expensive than competitor stores. You dont need to have any customers. If you dont go pn this silly tools system you have few costs. And with all that you can make money. You just have to keep telling everyone its great. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8494309285043063074.post-60403123152988650942016-03-11T11:54:48.583-08:002016-03-11T11:54:48.583-08:00The upline's goal is to keep everyone in as lo...The upline's goal is to keep everyone in as long as they can. That's why the teaching is to "never quit" or they will talk about Amway saving marriages, or Amway made me a nicer person, etc. These are not bad things but you didn't join the business to try and be nicer. You joined to make money.<br /><br />A business exists to make money. But because Amway IBOs are not making money, upline must sensationalize some side benefits to keep the downline going because nearly all IBOs keep seeing losses month after month due to the cost of the products and the cost of the tools and functions.Joecoolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09121920263105613498noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8494309285043063074.post-42581007644205492212016-03-11T11:21:50.197-08:002016-03-11T11:21:50.197-08:00Joe, absolutely right!
The most effective and lon...Joe, absolutely right!<br /><br />The most effective and long-lasting motivation for any businessman is a tangible PROFIT! If Amway IBOs could depend on a steady income every month as a result of steady labor, they'd stay.<br /><br />When you don't make any perceptible profit in a business after long effort, your natural tendency is to give up and try something else. And you have hit the nail right on the head, Joe: the entire "motivational" crap that Amway peddles is purely to prevent IBOs from doing this very natural thing. Amway screams "STAY! STAY! Success is just around the corner!" And some poor schmucks stay for ten or fifteen years, until they are completely destitute.<br /><br />And quite true -- since when does someone have to "pay" to be motivated? What purpose does it serve to sell CDs and tapes and ConmmuniKate and function tickets and all the rest of that stupid, worthless garbage, except to drain dollars from down-line?<br /><br />Everyone who is tempted to join Amway should read Robert FitzPatricks' "MLM: The American Dream Made Nightmare," especially his latest posting about the coming collapse of the entire MLM fraud, worldwide. FitzPatrick shows, in no uncertain terms, that the entire concept of an MLM scheme is to enrich a small coterie of up-line at the expense of anyone who is joining the MLM for the first time.<br /><br />That's why the "Tools" are so important. They are the main conduit for cash to up-line pockets. As for the products that the company sells... well, they are essentially meaningless camouflage. If they were any good at all, you wouldn't need an MLM plan to push them. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com