tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8494309285043063074.post3287420348993807884..comments2024-03-26T19:02:26.847-07:00Comments on Amway - The Dream Or The Scheme?: The Amway Wealth Illusion?Joecoolhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09121920263105613498noreply@blogger.comBlogger36125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8494309285043063074.post-21018659360819627612016-02-04T21:46:13.041-08:002016-02-04T21:46:13.041-08:00Not to mention Quiran could not ever verify that s...Not to mention Quiran could not ever verify that sales went up as a result of the function. Only sales of seminar tickets to upline that is.Joecoolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09121920263105613498noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8494309285043063074.post-70055568514494933732016-02-04T21:29:10.842-08:002016-02-04T21:29:10.842-08:00$100 is still expensive though, I think the cost i...$100 is still expensive though, I think the cost is around $30 and the $70 goes to the profit of uplines. What you get from spending $100? Nothing, no business advice is given, all they teach is "if we can, so can you" mantra which is nothing but to "hype up" an individual. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8494309285043063074.post-47202445453769445412016-01-31T02:12:01.489-08:002016-01-31T02:12:01.489-08:003 dollars per class and run approximate 10-13 clas...3 dollars per class and run approximate 10-13 class each month. Or you can get a monthly 20 dollars ticket for 20 dollars. workshop is free of charge or you pay 5 dollars if food is provided (or you bring a dish to share, or no charge if you don't take) . <br />You might have to drive around , however you also have to drive to work, this cost veries but it won't be so hight because we car pool a lot. <br />Then, there is fuction cost up to 100 dollars , and up to twice a year. We don't really push low pin members to attend the fuction , since we usually run out of ticket easily. But anyway, tools just a very small and reasonable spending in our system. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04827359839954896056noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8494309285043063074.post-9802378013917182802016-01-30T09:31:50.183-08:002016-01-30T09:31:50.183-08:00If someone can be a platinum without spending much...If someone can be a platinum without spending much on tools and functions, they might make some money. But I suspect you are highly understating the amount your group spends on tools and functions.Joecoolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09121920263105613498noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8494309285043063074.post-23277884115023958002016-01-29T23:56:20.715-08:002016-01-29T23:56:20.715-08:00Of course you don't know. Because you wasn'...Of course you don't know. Because you wasn't with them anymore . I am stay with diamond , platinum, new IBOs everyday . We paticipate in the training system in different degree but it don't see how can any of our platinum spend more than $100 a month with it . Diamond spend a little more but she also benifit more from traveling.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04827359839954896056noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8494309285043063074.post-82574631244666955782016-01-29T10:05:59.333-08:002016-01-29T10:05:59.333-08:00I know this because Amway stats show that only 1 i...I know this because Amway stats show that only 1 in 5 IBOs sponsor anyone. There's a good chance that a leg that drops out will not be back. <br /><br />Platinums can make decent income if they do not participate in the training system. But I don't know of any platinums that don't.Joecoolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09121920263105613498noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8494309285043063074.post-54898921316824232342016-01-29T00:55:16.182-08:002016-01-29T00:55:16.182-08:00Since you are not in the business how you know tha...Since you are not in the business how you know that leg drops and don't come back? one leg might drop , another might grow. as platinum made petty well income part-time, they have a commitment to business .Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04827359839954896056noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8494309285043063074.post-29731220155141496722016-01-28T09:45:29.877-08:002016-01-28T09:45:29.877-08:00More often, legs drop out and don't grow back....More often, legs drop out and don't grow back. People who don't make money won't have a commitment to the business.Joecoolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09121920263105613498noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8494309285043063074.post-67164782754361333832016-01-27T23:43:59.784-08:002016-01-27T23:43:59.784-08:00A diamond can have 30-50 legs, only 6 of them have...A diamond can have 30-50 legs, only 6 of them have to be platinum. Legs grow itself , one drop , more might come out. Also, a diamond might have legs bigger than platinum. <br /><br />we don't talk tax in detail . Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04827359839954896056noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8494309285043063074.post-63043690367516502702016-01-27T18:06:23.151-08:002016-01-27T18:06:23.151-08:00Yes, that much is clear. Amway income is unstable...Yes, that much is clear. Amway income is unstable.Joecoolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09121920263105613498noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8494309285043063074.post-55604722531548225072016-01-27T18:01:01.840-08:002016-01-27T18:01:01.840-08:00That means the income is unstable....That means the income is unstable....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8494309285043063074.post-9910537665331808562016-01-27T09:24:52.277-08:002016-01-27T09:24:52.277-08:00A diamond would not take home $200K in the US. Th...A diamond would not take home $200K in the US. The tax rate is 39%. Also, diamonds travel a lot for business. They show the plan and attend functions. Even if the cost is deductible, it's still money out of pocket.<br /><br />If a diamond walked away, if even one downline platinum fails to qualify, there is no diamond bonus.Joecoolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09121920263105613498noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8494309285043063074.post-12250494347365992332016-01-27T01:58:50.590-08:002016-01-27T01:58:50.590-08:00It sill good money. Amway provide business insuran...It sill good money. Amway provide business insurance to IBOs . It also provide a discount medical plan to IBOs. Travel cost is deductible from tax (while I don't consider there would a huge travel cost as all) I can safely said that a diamond could easily take home 200k net. How stable is diamond net work veries of course. But unlike you lose all income at once you get fired , if a diamond walk away, he would at very last able to collect some good money for one or two years without worry about anything. Once you built up such a big selling network and customer base , a stable income is possible if you have common sense in business. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04827359839954896056noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8494309285043063074.post-85543785290984780552016-01-26T21:39:23.085-08:002016-01-26T21:39:23.085-08:00Okay, now factor in taxes, business expenses, trav...Okay, now factor in taxes, business expenses, travel, medical insurance. etc.<br /><br />300K is not big money after all of that.Joecoolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09121920263105613498noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8494309285043063074.post-54366291989581736092016-01-26T20:06:36.314-08:002016-01-26T20:06:36.314-08:00Where did you get it as 150k? 150 K is the avg for...Where did you get it as 150k? 150 K is the avg for just a Q12 emerald.<br />The diamond 300k is come from amway publish "money and reward" 2015 , you get it free from amway website or via the mobile app. It listed out the calculation of each one , total up 369,949 . Well it is a founder diamond list , so I took out the 40k founder diamond reward. Of course the number might vary each from one diamond. But 300k is a diamond commonly make in our system. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04827359839954896056noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8494309285043063074.post-17247337032854265532016-01-26T09:20:22.852-08:002016-01-26T09:20:22.852-08:00Where did you get the information that diamonds ma...Where did you get the information that diamonds make $300K pre-tax?Joecoolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09121920263105613498noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8494309285043063074.post-48324223402211369632016-01-26T01:48:00.747-08:002016-01-26T01:48:00.747-08:00diamond make approximate 300k pre-tax, q12 diamond...diamond make approximate 300k pre-tax, q12 diamonds made 550k to 2.2 million a year. <br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04827359839954896056noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8494309285043063074.post-11212667360794367012016-01-25T09:12:36.513-08:002016-01-25T09:12:36.513-08:00LOL, that's funnyLOL, that's funnyJoecoolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09121920263105613498noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8494309285043063074.post-62072074614973958132016-01-25T09:09:17.250-08:002016-01-25T09:09:17.250-08:00$150K is gross income and it does not include taxe...$150K is gross income and it does not include taxes and business expenses. That $150K probably provides a middle class lifestyle at best.Joecoolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09121920263105613498noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8494309285043063074.post-66780667928728961862016-01-25T09:09:01.714-08:002016-01-25T09:09:01.714-08:00They are described as onion-skinned. Just prick a ...They are described as onion-skinned. Just prick a sore spot and you will see an ambot flared up with your "negativity." Makes me remind of a butterfly skin syndrome. Just prick and a bad reaction occurs.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8494309285043063074.post-32211915635361223502016-01-25T09:06:50.826-08:002016-01-25T09:06:50.826-08:00$150,000 is a decent income, Joe, Is the $150,000 ...$150,000 is a decent income, Joe, Is the $150,000 income pre-tax or net? If it is pre-taxed then it is not sustainable for a luxurious lifestyle. It is only enough to pay your bills. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8494309285043063074.post-2760013796262300362016-01-24T14:01:29.640-08:002016-01-24T14:01:29.640-08:00My upline in US is a founder crown , FFA 40 . Howe...My upline in US is a founder crown , FFA 40 . However who running out in Vegas is Zhou Jing Jing and she is new achived diamond on 2015 and she joined amway for only a little more than five years .Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04827359839954896056noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8494309285043063074.post-92004299373058427142016-01-23T23:20:05.493-08:002016-01-23T23:20:05.493-08:00So who are your upline diamonds?So who are your upline diamonds?Joecoolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09121920263105613498noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8494309285043063074.post-28774270576531982212016-01-23T21:51:30.614-08:002016-01-23T21:51:30.614-08:00None of the diamond I known said so. Anyway , seei...None of the diamond I known said so. Anyway , seeing is believing, you turn blind , you don't see , you don't believe . Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04827359839954896056noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8494309285043063074.post-34203449092996142842016-01-23T17:46:13.750-08:002016-01-23T17:46:13.750-08:00Diamonds often say they pay cash for everything, t...Diamonds often say they pay cash for everything, to imply that they are cash wealthy. They say paying interest is for broke losers who don't have the cash.Joecoolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09121920263105613498noreply@blogger.com