tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8494309285043063074.post5310723790775942493..comments2024-03-26T19:02:26.847-07:00Comments on Amway - The Dream Or The Scheme?: Opposing Views On Amway?Joecoolhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09121920263105613498noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8494309285043063074.post-54621349443776037872014-08-07T10:25:11.839-07:002014-08-07T10:25:11.839-07:00It sounds like your brother didn't do hi due d...It sounds like your brother didn't do hi due diligence when looking into his lawn cutting business. Much like Amway, many people lower their guards when approached by an Amway rep. In my case, a good friend sponsored me. A friend that I trusted. Thus I didn't question him too much until it became evident that our upline leaders were lying.<br /><br />But even then, I could not convince my friend that the leaders were lying to us about the tools. He had bought in hook like and sinker. Joecoolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09121920263105613498noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8494309285043063074.post-32852774546072133132014-08-07T04:11:45.437-07:002014-08-07T04:11:45.437-07:00Hi Joe
You make some great points that I can perso...Hi Joe<br />You make some great points that I can personally relate to. <br />My brother recently bought into a lawn mowing franchise on the advice that if he put in the work, he’d make more money, enjoy more freedom and a better lifestyle.<br />I work at a university as an auditor and I’m smart enough to know a manipulative scam when I see it.<br />After paying some money for equity in the franchise, he tried to make a go of it without much success – he wasn’t able to convince people to pay for the service or find anyone to work with him. All of this in addition to his full-time job of school teacher.<br />I understand that a very small number of these operators make a good income, no doubt through the hard work of others that they exploit. Do you know what percentage of new lawn mowing franchises succeed past the first 6 months? I looked into it – it’s miniscule, yet they continue to promote it as a realistic “opportunity”.<br />Despite my brother continuing to say how he wanted to keep trying and that he hadn’t been duped, I knew that he’d been brainwashed by his hypnotic “friends”. I blame them for his decision to try and get ahead by making a small investment of his money and time into something that he couldn’t make work. <br />It’s another clear example of the “thought control” ability possessed by evil leaders of businesses all around the globe.<br />I tell him every day to quit and that he can’t possibly succeed. I’ve contacted the business and demanded a refund for the wampum that he’s paid for – all they say is that he is free to on sell his equipment if he wants to. <br />I’d really appreciate it if you could direct your awesome fact based campaign against these racketeers. There’s a labyrinth of deceptive grass cutting businesses around the globe, with copycat operations popping up everywhere!<br />As you say “Truth is the enemy of all cults” and I can’t wait for the kingpins of this lawn mowing mafia to be brought to justice for their ability to delude people in a way that makes them incapable of independent thought or personal accountability.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8494309285043063074.post-43825934392188209312014-08-06T22:50:10.933-07:002014-08-06T22:50:10.933-07:00QIAC, thanks for the comment and long time no see....QIAC, thanks for the comment and long time no see. People like IBOFB have cognitive dissonance and narcissism. But you already knew that. <br /><br />What makes this cult more insidious is they get the victims to blame themselves. "I didn't try hard enough", etc etc. In the end, very few people come back to seek refunds or write their experiences on the internet. For that reason, I have stayed active in the fight. Many of my articles now are re-prints but it keeps my blog up in the search rankings. You should consider doing the same.<br /><br />I believe Amway is a barely legal scheme. It is why there are settlements and things, Do you notice how IBOs often say "we don't do that anymore"? That means they were doing something scammy prior to that. And on it goes for deades now.<br /><br />My blog surely can't stop a billion dollar corporation but it can provide information to those who seek it so at least they know the truth if they decide to join. Some may opt to seek a different option and that is my victory.Joecoolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09121920263105613498noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8494309285043063074.post-76816541141371560712014-08-06T22:43:23.722-07:002014-08-06T22:43:23.722-07:00IBOFB knows everything about Amway but it hasnt tr...IBOFB knows everything about Amway but it hasnt translated to any substantial success that I know of. Even if he did achieve something, it would come at the expense of his downline. You're right, they try to spin everything into positive and sometimes they do more harm than good.Joecoolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09121920263105613498noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8494309285043063074.post-92025107034967668122014-08-06T18:52:16.352-07:002014-08-06T18:52:16.352-07:00Joecool...
It just happened to me again. I had w...Joecool...<br /><br />It just happened to me again. I had written an extensive comment, and when I hit the 'preview' button it all disappeared. I suppose that is what happens to IBO money when they follow their kingpin leaders into the Amway labyrinth. <br /><br />I too post most of the pro-Amway comments according to your philosophy. I've also had to delete many good comments simply because they have span attached to them. <br /><br />Amway's accreditation program is just a means to claim 'plausible deniability.' It seems like there is some evidence that Rich DeVos was appalled by the hi-jinx of' many of the Amway kingpins (to include the likes of Dexter Yager.) The AMO's may have taken the Amway business off in directions the DeVos did not necessarily approve of. That being said, he sure has profited to the extreme by their ever worsening operations. Much like many of the old school Mafia didn't approve of underlings involving themselves in the lucrative drug trade. They, nor DeVos turned down the payoff. <br /><br />Amway IBOs are generally victims of 'thought control' and in the end lose their ability to free thought. They buy into the lies which they believe will bring them the boats, cars, and mansions in the end. They believe they can duplicate the success of the few kingpins to their own undoing. In the end they may say that their loses were attributed to wanting to take the minor discount on the Amway goods. This is Amway's new spin on their 'product pyramid scheme'. They shrug off all those that lose money as merely being customers who joined only to enjoy the benefit of buying at the discount, never actually intending to pursue the 'dream.' This is an asinine lie, especially as it pertains to those IBOs who buy the required amount of PV to remain alive in the carefully devised pathway to financial freedom. <br /><br />I, nor you seek to make enemies of the true believers, but in the end it is unavoidable. As my friend David Brear says: "Truth is the enemy of all cults." quixtarisaculthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07051645876072252255noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8494309285043063074.post-18032250152808005572014-08-06T18:00:02.279-07:002014-08-06T18:00:02.279-07:00Ibofb,Bridget and others can try to put a positive...Ibofb,Bridget and others can try to put a positive spin on Amway and tools. But I'm north america its a sinking ship. Still high failure rate and hardly any new diamonds over here. I like to roll my eyes when I read ibofb make Greg Duncan's bankruptcy sound positive. If the scam was so great. David steadson would be out building it and not hours a day defendingAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com