tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8494309285043063074.post6499714518088895968..comments2024-03-26T19:02:26.847-07:00Comments on Amway - The Dream Or The Scheme?: Joecool's Amway 4000 PV Business?Joecoolhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09121920263105613498noreply@blogger.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8494309285043063074.post-56827261161690651162015-09-02T17:48:13.149-07:002015-09-02T17:48:13.149-07:00Okay, compare it to a franchise. Franchisors set ...Okay, compare it to a franchise. Franchisors set up their franchisees to succeed by studying demographics and market penetration to try and make everyone succeed. In Amway, you sign up everyone regardless of how many distributors live in a certain area. And then the distributors try to sign up friends and family who also add to their own competition.Joecoolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09121920263105613498noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8494309285043063074.post-76881511819050364282015-09-02T15:59:17.570-07:002015-09-02T15:59:17.570-07:00Depend on what type of job you are looking at . co...Depend on what type of job you are looking at . commission base jobs are out there way before amway was founded. When I run my small business , I don't take wage or salary. <br /><br />You can not compare Apple to orange . You can not compare business opportunities with a wage job. Most people if they do it in the right way, made money in Good MLM ( not just amway). MLM as a trend grows so fast everywhere, that is a fact.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04827359839954896056noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8494309285043063074.post-69700117648359704882015-09-02T00:42:15.919-07:002015-09-02T00:42:15.919-07:00Yes, but in companies where they pay a wage or sal...Yes, but in companies where they pay a wage or salary, even the lowest guy on the organizational chart gets paid and has money at the end of the month. In Amway, almost everyone makes nothing or loses money.Joecoolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09121920263105613498noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8494309285043063074.post-30251769240806293682015-09-02T00:18:53.515-07:002015-09-02T00:18:53.515-07:00In almost any company success is exception not the...In almost any company success is exception not the rule. What's the percentage of a worker on average , can make the way to make 200k per year ? Please compare the rate. Oh yes , I guess union worker might get it. <br /><br />Business is about risk and reward, job is trading time for money. Amway (as well as other nice MLM ) is a good business because it is easy to start and very low risk. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04827359839954896056noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8494309285043063074.post-7103656146931439052015-09-01T09:49:27.235-07:002015-09-01T09:49:27.235-07:00The Amway stats indicate that founder's emeral...The Amway stats indicate that founder's emeralds and diamonds are the exception and not the rule. Also, except for the new diamonds and emeralds, you don't know who is and who isn't. Amway only recognizes the new ones. Amway's position is once a diamond, always a diamond. Joecoolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09121920263105613498noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8494309285043063074.post-55355613719331453252015-09-01T00:48:15.986-07:002015-09-01T00:48:15.986-07:00Founder emerald made 135,826 per year avg. I can c...Founder emerald made 135,826 per year avg. I can count out diamond made at least 25k a year. The number of diamond is close to founder diamond. It might be quite rare to you but it is much rare then people in working class can make this much for me. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04827359839954896056noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8494309285043063074.post-17925097755105470182015-08-30T22:48:49.731-07:002015-08-30T22:48:49.731-07:00Amway says average diamond makes 150K and founders...Amway says average diamond makes 150K and founders diamond makes around 600K but founders diamonds are quite rare. Joecoolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09121920263105613498noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8494309285043063074.post-17246250931656194672015-08-29T03:02:54.551-07:002015-08-29T03:02:54.551-07:00I don't know what kind of diamond life you are...I don't know what kind of diamond life you are thinking. I know that diamond make at least 300k a year with great grows on the track. Also has other benefits. <br /><br />I don't know how they went bankrupt and I don't care. I do know that super starts making millions also can go bankrupt. <br /><br />So make it clear that a diamond can make avg. 300k and it is a kind of passive income . It is not a super rich life but better most people can do by having a job . Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04827359839954896056noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8494309285043063074.post-13851824188641551582015-08-25T16:40:41.191-07:002015-08-25T16:40:41.191-07:00All we have are diamonds who volunteered informati...All we have are diamonds who volunteered information when they quit and Greg Duncan, a triple diamond who went bankrupt. We have their financial information and we also have Amway's income disclosures and diamonds do not make the kind of money that can support a "diamond" lifestyle. Joecoolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09121920263105613498noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8494309285043063074.post-63492875497796713722015-08-25T13:24:40.313-07:002015-08-25T13:24:40.313-07:00Really? Do you have anything to support your claim...Really? Do you have anything to support your claim? We know the IBO's pin (as amway publish it) , so we know their income ranges. We can easily write down business expense , as there isn't much you can spend on it. so we know that. Ok , you don't listen , but you watch. Not just one day, but for a couple months , you can tell.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04827359839954896056noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8494309285043063074.post-88871338479213910012015-08-25T09:43:24.086-07:002015-08-25T09:43:24.086-07:00How do you know who is successful in Amway? Nobod...How do you know who is successful in Amway? Nobody shares their profit and loss information. It's a big secret. Many IBOs are taught to dress and act successful when the reality is they are losing money.Joecoolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09121920263105613498noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8494309285043063074.post-86052967292260261902015-08-24T23:37:46.418-07:002015-08-24T23:37:46.418-07:00mentorship is nothing to do with upline . My mento...mentorship is nothing to do with upline . My mentor can be my downline , upline or cross line in our system. It is a team job and that how we are beating everybody. We learn from whoever success in the business and success is proven by sales and income . Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04827359839954896056noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8494309285043063074.post-19093757574102610132015-08-24T09:22:32.194-07:002015-08-24T09:22:32.194-07:00Upline is not a reliable source of mentorship.Upline is not a reliable source of mentorship.Joecoolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09121920263105613498noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8494309285043063074.post-76384184264407806792015-08-24T02:23:44.248-07:002015-08-24T02:23:44.248-07:00You should have spoken to his upline. That's n...You should have spoken to his upline. That's not a reliable source of mentorship devorce is something we need less of. And business needs to come after relationships. Burkynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8494309285043063074.post-46219018081682090572015-08-17T14:17:39.873-07:002015-08-17T14:17:39.873-07:00The LOS (WWDB) is Amway IBOs but WWDB is legally s...The LOS (WWDB) is Amway IBOs but WWDB is legally separate from Amway.Joecoolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09121920263105613498noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8494309285043063074.post-60908419203981594412015-08-17T13:44:35.861-07:002015-08-17T13:44:35.861-07:00LOS is "line of sponsorships" , it is fo...LOS is "line of sponsorships" , it is formed when an Amway IBOs has upline and downline , which almost anyone has one. Of course their are not LLC unless they choose to form it and complete all legal requirement. WWDB, for example , is not a LOS, it is a for profit LLC that provide training services to IBOs who want to buy. There are many LOS using WWDB. <br /><br /> Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04827359839954896056noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8494309285043063074.post-45944064834605618262015-08-16T18:42:41.450-07:002015-08-16T18:42:41.450-07:00LOS are not a part of Amway. As far as I know, t...LOS are not a part of Amway. As far as I know, they are typically LLC companies. Functions are the biggest profit center. Do the math and you can see.Joecoolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09121920263105613498noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8494309285043063074.post-89112193231016929232015-08-16T05:47:27.176-07:002015-08-16T05:47:27.176-07:00Well, the true is , WWDB or other for profit train...Well, the true is , WWDB or other for profit training companies, does "produce" some new diamonds in last few years and certainly, some profitable IBOs too. So it does count as evidences that those tools, as least work for someone. I neither agree or disagree with it, I only consider IBOs should receive adequate training from upline platinum for free (as it already paid by Amway). All other training should be optional, as like all kinds professional training out there. <br /><br />And, LOS is not a for profit company by itself(please check the definition of LOS), only the LOS that choose to incorporate then become a profit company. <br /><br />The LOS, by itself, it sells Amway product, not tools or functions. My LOS, does suggest we go to every function, but we did not make any other tools that were for sell at all. Functions, even if there is a small profit, it just make up a very small percentage of income. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04827359839954896056noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8494309285043063074.post-2968441323111149822015-08-11T23:15:09.061-07:002015-08-11T23:15:09.061-07:00You're right. Some LOS are different but they...You're right. Some LOS are different but they are the same in this regard. And LOS - Line Of Sponsorship is a for profit company that sells tools and functions and they make a profit from IBOs even if the IBOs go broke and lose their homes. <br /><br />Most LOS are pretty much the same. You claim your LOS doesn't try to push tools and functions but that is odd because as I said, the LOS is a for profit company that sells tools and functions. Why would they tell you not to buy?<br /><br />It's insidious because there is no evidence that these tools help IBOs to profit.Joecoolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09121920263105613498noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8494309285043063074.post-67071188959256210692015-08-11T18:01:18.256-07:002015-08-11T18:01:18.256-07:00It is good a inside review. I agree what you said ...It is good a inside review. I agree what you said but I have one point to say. <br />No one from WWDB is amway employees , no one from WWDB can repsent Amway. WWDB is a for profit LLC , you LOS is belong to your and your upline , not belong to Amway. As an IBOs , you and your upline has right to do business in their own way. A lot of things you meantion might against the IBO code of conduce(at least sounds to me at today version). <br /><br />Remember , not all LOS doing business in the same way. IBOs does not equal to amway. Amway did change to contract now you can't incorporate like it use to be without prove from them. <br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04827359839954896056noreply@blogger.com