tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8494309285043063074.post8231834126803105212..comments2024-03-26T19:02:26.847-07:00Comments on Amway - The Dream Or The Scheme?: Amway Reduces Middlemen?Joecoolhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09121920263105613498noreply@blogger.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8494309285043063074.post-32218131002904618312016-01-27T09:22:26.972-08:002016-01-27T09:22:26.972-08:00Nothing wrong with customers but most IBOs don'...Nothing wrong with customers but most IBOs don't have any.Joecoolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09121920263105613498noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8494309285043063074.post-5383608929835925062016-01-27T02:16:36.077-08:002016-01-27T02:16:36.077-08:00Some as other business. As I said , many former IB...Some as other business. As I said , many former IBOs become customer. My family use have one join Amway tens ago, then become inactive but still using loc and sa8 for years. She just getting it at retail price from her upline. What's wrong with that ? Once a while she also purchase some other things on and off. Not everyone will be an IBO lifetime, but certainly they can be a long term customer. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04827359839954896056noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8494309285043063074.post-59642819581110213572016-01-24T17:38:28.455-08:002016-01-24T17:38:28.455-08:00Amway has tens of millions of former IBOs. There&...Amway has tens of millions of former IBOs. There's a good reason for that.Joecoolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09121920263105613498noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8494309285043063074.post-62539536704027217092016-01-24T14:35:26.579-08:002016-01-24T14:35:26.579-08:00True. you might fool everyone at one time , or som...True. you might fool everyone at one time , or someone for all time. But you can't fool everyone all then time. As a business growed for 58 years in more than 100 market , it is a real business . And for our system keep being the biggest system and growing over 100 market , we also proved ourself. Of course , not everyone in our system operate ethically, but most of us do.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04827359839954896056noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8494309285043063074.post-43649974588743391942016-01-23T23:21:14.293-08:002016-01-23T23:21:14.293-08:00Lots of people claim they don't operate unethi...Lots of people claim they don't operate unethically, but they still do.Joecoolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09121920263105613498noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8494309285043063074.post-38419979267693140632016-01-23T21:39:14.637-08:002016-01-23T21:39:14.637-08:00no , your blog is good information for me. It help...no , your blog is good information for me. It help me to explain to my downlines two things. One, we don't act as you claim in your blog so we are different. Two , we know how to respond to such questions and back up our answer with real life and real time eve dents. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04827359839954896056noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8494309285043063074.post-61052620968619141852016-01-23T17:37:57.876-08:002016-01-23T17:37:57.876-08:00That's m point. You use the internet to plac...That's m point. You use the internet to place orders but uplines don't want prospects to look for informatio about Amway on the internet because they don't want people finding and reading blogs like this one.Joecoolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09121920263105613498noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8494309285043063074.post-54928746690251304672016-01-23T16:57:46.096-08:002016-01-23T16:57:46.096-08:00We use Internet tools very well. We are doing soci...We use Internet tools very well. We are doing social marketing for years even before Facebook came out. However, nothing can replace live meeting , that's why we still have CES not long ago and tons of events a year. <br />I have no idea where you come up that we don't use Internet . I don't know about the voice mail things , we use free commutation , wechat or whatsapp etc. we hold online meeting. We are in fact much steps ahead then a lot of company. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04827359839954896056noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8494309285043063074.post-21270781829195025522016-01-21T20:47:33.310-08:002016-01-21T20:47:33.310-08:00That's hilarious! Ecommerce and the internet...That's hilarious! Ecommerce and the internet is the new age medium to sell goods! Oh, but don't go on the internet looking for informatio about Amway before you sign up because there are broke losers wanting you not to join.<br /><br />ROTFLMAO!Joecoolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09121920263105613498noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8494309285043063074.post-61906938485800163092016-01-21T20:21:11.356-08:002016-01-21T20:21:11.356-08:00Remember your upline talking about e-commerce and ...Remember your upline talking about e-commerce and at the same breath your upline tells you not to go to the internet? <br /><br />That's plain irony. They don't know that e-commerce is part of the internet system. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8494309285043063074.post-16732261719751111182016-01-20T22:41:55.612-08:002016-01-20T22:41:55.612-08:00Yep, I heard the saying that the Amway business is...Yep, I heard the saying that the Amway business is built on inconvenience because in order to make it big, you must be willing to do what others are not. Bunch of BS.Joecoolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09121920263105613498noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8494309285043063074.post-38178928575315944432016-01-20T22:40:07.456-08:002016-01-20T22:40:07.456-08:00Amway has added middlemen to the distribution proc...Amway has added middlemen to the distribution process. That's why Amway needs to charge such high prices for products, because the IBO bonuses are built into the cost.Joecoolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09121920263105613498noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8494309285043063074.post-85356642408471548332016-01-20T22:39:02.392-08:002016-01-20T22:39:02.392-08:00I believe the internet has made it impossible for ...I believe the internet has made it impossible for uplines to hide the facts about the business and the tools. I have heard that function venues have gotten smaller, maybe because many people know the scoop on the tool scam.Joecoolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09121920263105613498noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8494309285043063074.post-72478829192950580432016-01-20T22:37:47.424-08:002016-01-20T22:37:47.424-08:00KATE is a big money maker for the diamonds. I be...KATE is a big money maker for the diamonds. I beieve the upline diamond gets something like $6 - $10 a month for each subscription. Imagine having 1000 or more downline subscribing. And that's just one money making tool. Add in standing order, book of the month, functions and they are making serious coin off the downline purchases, not to mention they get the lion's share of downline PV generated bonuses.Joecoolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09121920263105613498noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8494309285043063074.post-91687764946493694052016-01-20T22:34:22.582-08:002016-01-20T22:34:22.582-08:00Or they'll give you vague and unclear answers ...Or they'll give you vague and unclear answers that don't really answer the question.Joecoolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09121920263105613498noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8494309285043063074.post-80102381224430386652016-01-20T15:31:02.609-08:002016-01-20T15:31:02.609-08:00Yes, it's totally absurd to drive three hundre...Yes, it's totally absurd to drive three hundred miles to an Amway business meeting when skype, video conferencing, and webcams are available at practically no cost at all.<br /><br />Part of the motivation for this is up-line's simple fear that if they change Amway procedures in the slightest way, the entire house of cards may collapse. And the way things are going downhill now, your Amway up-line is haunted by this possibility.<br /><br />But another part of it is the sheer lust to dominate down-line. "Force them to drive! Force them to draw the circles in person! Force them to make travel plans! Force them to spend money on gas and hotels! Amway wasn't easy for us -- why should it be easy for them?"<br /><br />There are plenty of up-line vermin who think of themselves as drill instructors on Parris Island, making life torture for young Marine recruits, and taking pleasure in doing so. <br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8494309285043063074.post-29804588578957634342016-01-20T15:11:21.427-08:002016-01-20T15:11:21.427-08:00They talked about eliminating the middlemen and so...They talked about eliminating the middlemen and something about e-commerce but the reality is that they have more middlemen because the middlemen are the upline's cash cow. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8494309285043063074.post-4566759770042685542016-01-20T15:08:08.716-08:002016-01-20T15:08:08.716-08:00Uplines are afraid of "modernization." N...Uplines are afraid of "modernization." Not only it reduces the flow of money to the upline, uplines are afraid that their deceptive practices will be known to everyone. Uplines are fearful that the truth about their practices will be exposed thanks to mobile internet. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8494309285043063074.post-1991760186518780922016-01-20T12:13:54.621-08:002016-01-20T12:13:54.621-08:00I have actually written about utilizing "Kate...I have actually written about utilizing "Kate" short for communiKate, because of my continued frustration with that idea when they were asking me to join. I asked my upline, why would I need Kate if I have a cell phone and e-mail. His response, "It's the most effective way to get your message out to a lot of people quickly." I said, but I can do that with an e-mail and a mailing list. He said, "It's not the same as them being able to hear your voice." To which I said, well if it is that important I would just e-mail my people to come meet me so that we can have a real meeting. Clearly if they need to hear my voice some serious stuff must be happening. He basically didn't have a response to that and shut down saying, "If you don't want to use the tools that's your option, but I can't help you." (i.e. EFF YOU! BUY MY STUFF OR GET OUT!) I have also gone to the Kate support online, and they have basically said our cell phones can do everything Kate can, except fax. I said, why the heck would I care about being able to fax. (side not, this proves Joe's article about utilizing the most sucky and inefficient forms of business and procedures). She said lots of businesses still require fax for notarized documents. None of this actually pertains to this business, and I would still have to go out and get to the post office or wherever to get the darn thing notarized. I then broke down the costs of Kate compared to a very reasonable cell phone plan with internet and the ability to skype. The cell phone plan was close to the same cost and you can definitely find plans that are cheaper. The best part of having a cell phone is that you can COMMUNICATE with ANYONE! You don't have to be in some weird psycho network with only Kate consumers. These tools are absolutely absurd, costly, and ineffective to run a successful business in the 21st century. (See what I did there Kiyosaki?) Oh and I didn't charge a dime for that information...Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09218448308057670565noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8494309285043063074.post-49348236373904037232016-01-20T10:07:59.013-08:002016-01-20T10:07:59.013-08:00Up-line won't answer you. They'll simply ...Up-line won't answer you. They'll simply scream "NEVER QUESTION UP-LINE!"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com