Ohein56, who uses his real name on scam.com apparently hails from California. He got involved in MLM around 1981 or so, and lost money for his first 15 years by his own admission! He also admits he hasn't been involved in MLM since 2006. While he tries to keep the "missing years" a mystery, we can easily conclude from his own track record that he very likely lost money in those years too. There's nothing to indicate that this man learned anything to be able to profit from his MLM businesses.
At one time, during a heated debate, Ohein56 demanded a face to face meeting, telling me to name the time and place. Turns out I was headed to Las Vegas in a few weeks so I told Ohein56 to meet me inside of Caesar's palace. As expected Ohein56 no showed and then pretended not to know we even had the meeting scheduled. He later changed his story altogether and said he never agreed to meet. Since when does anyone demand you name a time and place, and then no show after the time and place is named? I later offered to meet him in Honolulu but he declined.
Lately, this Ohein56 character has grown an unhealthy obsession over my real life identity. Currently, most of his time on scam.com is chasing me around the forum claiming I have lied about hiding my identity. As I told Ohein56, there are some online people who know Joecool's real life identity, thus my identity is not hidden if I know and trust you. Because I've received death threats and been the victim of cyber bullying (by David Steadson), I keep my real life identity close to the vest, only exposing it to people I can trust.
Over on scam.com, you can easily see that Ohein56 is a common denominator of trouble, getting into verbal spats and flame wars with many others. I've posted some comments about him from people who used to post with him on the scam.com website:
There probably has been not a soul on the planet who has joined more MLMs, pissed away more money and made no money to speak of on MLMs, than Kerry. He doesn't have the money to get involved in any more scams. He's failed in her personal life, failed at every MLM he has joined and has to be the biggest liar and loser (even just edging out IamAWilly) to have ever posted over on the cesspool. Hell, he "worked" SOC for years and didn't make diddle. Yet, he will continue to defend them and all MLMs with his dying breath. Talk about a Fatal Attraction syndrome. Maybe his poor wife simply became fed up with supporting his drug of choice (MLM), listening to the lies and bullshit and going to work everyday to support him while he sits on his lazy worthless ass drinking and posting on Scam day and night.
You will be shocked, shocked I tell you. The preceeding 3 posts were Kerry Lee Hein's landing page for Send Out Cards. Remember Ohein56 jumping up and down about ethical MLM. He has by his own admission never made more than $800 a month in MLM. In reality he manages a dinky apartment complex and his wife works. He can't make ends meet by his own admission. He struggles to cover necessities.
How does that equate to "Financial Freedom," cruises, luxury vacations, paying college, eliminating debt, adding to retirement, successful, proven and "making a fortune working from home?" How is the hell is that "Big Money?" Kerry has not by any stretch of the imagination secured anything. He is a walking advertisement for the problems with MLM. He is a serial MLM failure with nothing to show for his years of involvement. There is nothing ethical about his solicitation at all!!! No wonder he won't post here.
Ohein56 and Doyle......
Who have their panties stuck up their ass over that screwball wacko Itisascam .....
Of course Carl, Ohein56, Doyle and Itisascam are incapable of rational discussion.
They can post their bullshit somewhere else.
Ohein56 apparently is a nearly 60 year old man who's got nothing better to do than troll these forums defending MLM ad nauseum. MLM, an opportunity that he couldn't even make a decent profit from. Now he spends his time trolling and spreading lies all over the internet. I know he frequents this forum so here's to Ohein56, star of the day.
ROTFLMAO!!
I've been following your bog and some others for some time now. It sure seems that the people who defend Amway and MLM the hardest are the newbies or people who have very little verifiable success. As if giving in will be an admission of defeat or failure, thus they can justify their positions by defending Amway/MLM so they can say they will succeed "some day".
ReplyDeleteThanks for the comments. Yeah, that Ohein56 is a staunch defender of MLM despite the fact that he's basically done nothing in MLM. And to make it even better, he was probably taught that it's his own fault. What scary is to wonder how many hours this loser is spending on the internet trying to figure out my real life identity.
ReplyDeleteThat's all he posts these days on the scam.com forum. He obsessed in an unhealthy way about uncovering my identity.
If he hadn't no showed back in 2012, he could have met me in person. Oh well, that ship has sailed.
Sadly, the longtime serial MLM failures have a gambling addiction mentality. Instead of the craps table, they are addicted to MLM. The worse things get, the more devoted they become. Like a gambler, when things get bad, they are ready to double-down to recoup their losses. Sadly, they double-down on things that have no bearing on success: buy more product, go to more rallies, etc.
ReplyDeleteWhile Ohein56 is clearly going too far in tracking you down, people like him are to be pitied more than hated. There are no support groups for MLM addicts. There is no 12-step program. You can't turn these people around by online comments - they are too entrenched in their delusions. Their only hope is to hit rock bottom, perhaps living in their car or a transient hotel. Even that is not a guarantee.
If these MLMs had any moral compass, they would cut these people off. Heck, even a responsible bartender will cut you off if you've had too much to drink. It says something that MLMs should aspire to the morality of a bartender.
AnonTB
Anon TB, thanks for the comments. The funny thing about Ohein is that he hasn't even been active in MLM since 2006, by his own admission. You're right though, about MLM addictions. This guy even blindly defends lies told by pro MLM folks. I suppose he could just be a classic forum troll who enjoys the flame wars.
ReplyDeleteIn a way, I do kind of feel sorry for him. He's nearly 60 years old and still chasing silly MLM dreams.
I see Ohein56 has stopped by to read this article. LOL. I love his silence.
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I've read some stories about Amway IBO's resorting to threats or veiled threats to people who suddenly became "disloyal" to the group. The book "Merchants of Deception" gives a pretty good example of this. Maybe Ohein is one of those who feels he must protect the group by attacking someone who disagrees with the group thinking. For that reason, some MLM is thought of like the mafia, Ohein just being a self proclaimed enforcer.
ReplyDeleteOut of curiosity, I went over to scam.com and that Ohein56 is a tool. I didn't spend that much time there but I didn't see a single post of his that was useful to the forum. All he did was follow Joe around the forum claiming he was hiding his identity. Duh, most people post anonymously on the internet. This guy is a loser.
ReplyDeleteThanks for the comments guys. Not sure what motivates Ohein but the guy just can't seem to help himself.
ReplyDeleteI see you're still chatting with yourself pretty much, huh....?
ReplyDelete{From scam.com member noagenda} - Come on Joe. We long time readers know better. THE TERMS WERE NOT FINALIZED. He was banned from the website leading up to the date of the meeting. Even though he was still jerking your chain through correspondence with Chris D. It wasn't agreed. As far as a meeting with James, Kerry NEVER took the bait. I mean how can James AGREE to something that was never offered to him.}
Compliment re:me From Noagenda...
"Say what you want about Kerry but he has been consistent. He has always defended the model, pointed out obvious money shuffling programs, and admitted his own unsuccessful ventures. He is certainly NOT a hypocrite. You can be untalented at music or sport but still enjoy the performance of someone who is. Kerry can acknowledge his own shortcomings but still admire friends, acquaintances and mentors who did attain a measure of success. He has never said "anyone can do it." I also defend the model but know I'd be lousy because I'm not a people person or willing to take a risk and devote to it like a business. When you have divergent interests or needs MLM may not be the best use of your time."
Sorry to pop your bubble jokey...I just wonder if you have the cajones to post this...I doubt you do.
roflmao
If curse I'll publish it. Why didn't you post the quote from Bibleman who said you stood me up after you called me out? You can post what you want but it's obvious that you're a liar so who would believe what you write? Noagenda never bothered to read the entire thread to see how you pretended not to know where we were meeting. Let's face it, you're claiming you never agreed to meet because you have nothing left.
ReplyDeleteAs I said, you calls someone out and demands a face to face meeting and then no shows because "he never agreed to meet". That's a pretty damn weak excuse, even for you.
Why did Ohein call you out?
ReplyDeleteWe were having a heated debate. He told me I wouldn't dare talk to him face to face and insult him. I said I would. He then demanded that I name a time and place to meet. I'm from Hawaii but I was going to be in Vegas a few weeks later so I told him Ceasar's Palace at noon on December 1st. Ohein knew I was going to be there but he no showed and then started making an excuse that he never actually agreed to meet me.
ReplyDeleteAs far as I know, when someone demands you name a time and place, once the time and place is named (resonable to meet in Vegas since I"m in Hawaii and he' in California), the game is on. As a kicker, Ohein later pretended to now know about the meeting. Then he later changed his story and said he never agreed to meet. Pretty weak if you ask me.
If he called you out and you named the time and place, isn't that an agreement to meet? Sounds like it unless there is more to the story.
ReplyDeleteHeiney is an effing troll. His crap is littered all over the internet, and best I can tell, he's a nobody who's not even made any money in Amway or MLM. He just enjoys trolling and spreading his lies wherever he goes.
ReplyDeleteI lurk on scam.com so I came to see this post. I don't think I've seen Ohein post anything of value on that forum. He likes to post quotes and sayings from others and he enjoys tossing out insults. I bet he would shut his pie hole if he was talking to people in person. He's brave because he's living behind a keyboard posting from his mother's basement.
ReplyDeletePlease contact me regarding Ohein56
ReplyDeletegbentley01@hotmail.com
So after Ohein56 no showed in Vegas, didn't he look like a complete jackass after calling you out? You'd think the guy would be ashamed to show his face again after that. I've seen his kind before, big talk but little action. The internet forums are loaded with guys like that.
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