I've seen some interesting discussion recently about how an Amway diamond pin is like winning a gold medal. That you don't get it taken away from you later even if you don't qualify anymore. The discussion also flowed as to where they mentioned that former US President Jimmy Carter is still addressed as Mr. President. Or that someone with a superbowl ring can be addressed as a superbowl champion. While I agree with that to some degree, I think the issue of diamond or former diamond is significant and different from former President Carter or a former Superbowl Champion. Terry Bradshaw or Joe Montana don't parade around as if they just won the superbowl last year.
The diamond pin is a significant achievement for sure. Seems that recently, it's even harder to achieve in North America. I don't know of more than a few new diamonds emerging in the last twenty years or so in the US. But if say a diamond qualified in 1988 and never qualified again, how would you as an IBO feel about paying to see this diamond speak function after function and how many would continue to buy standing orders from a guy who may have achieved diamond 20 years ago and never again? Would the audiences be "fired up" to see these speakers? I find this ironic also, because many Amway defenders like to criticize Amway critics for having an outdated experience. Well, conversely, a one time diamond would be basically the same thing. If not then Joecool should command the respect of a 4000 PV Eagle since that was my highest level.
I actually have no issue with Amway allowing the achiever to carry their highest pin as a recognized achievement, but I do believe that those who use their former pin status to exploit and profit from new IBOs and prospects should be stopped. I know I would not have been so excited attending a function where the keynote speaker went diamond for 6 months a decade ago and was no longer qualified. Else, by upline's definition, he will teach me to go diamond and fall apart? I believe there are fewer North American diamonds now than twenty years ago. Some diamonds resigned and some outright quit. So much for residual/passive income. Obviously if these things existed, then nobody would quit or walk away from residual income.
BTW, an article on an Amway Corporate website says this about passive income:
"Passive income is a term we do not permit distributors to use and it’s not a term the Corporation uses. In our business, there is no such thing as doing no work, and expecting money to still come in.” Link:
http://blogs.amway.com/answers/2010/11/02/unwelcome-words/#comments
Hello Joecool, the link does not work anymore, though I also remember that passive income without work was said to be missrepresentation and lie which is not true. But as any new recruits biggest reason to join is passive income, they probably silently erased the page about it.
ReplyDeleteBut it can still be found in some Amway rules:
Use of the terms “residual income,” “residuals,” “passive income,” “royalty income,” or “royalties” is also unacceptable, as they misrepresent the nature of earnings from the Sales and Marketing Plan.
https://www.amway.co.za/media/PDF/ZA/Downloads/General%20Business/1710190901/updated-sept-2017-rules-of-conduct.pdf
Btw. would like to know your opinion on esotericism in Amway. Look at that:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZP9tRkz36nE&t=2466s
This is an hour long presentation solely dedicated to properly create your vision board!!! :-)
Once you have it right, then universe should bring you what you have on your vision board!!!
The fun part is, that the same guy later in presentation says that he wanted apple iphone 8, but at the end bought iphone 7 as it is 600 dollars cheaper and somebody from audience nods, that he wanted BMW 7, but then he just bought some ordinary car due to "economical reasons"... Omg, how pathetic is that? :-)
Fun part is also, that the guy presenting is now selling a dozen or so of worn personal clothes and shoes on facebook for 10-20 dollars a piece.
Yeah, that is what millionaires usually do in their free time - they run secondhand clothes shop... :-)
I've been asked to join and was told/shown the business plan. So I had thus idea I could purchase health products for my own benefit that people saw the result I could possibly start a business. I am constantly told to go out. You gotta show people the plan no matter who it is we need to fill the hopper the more people you get in the sooner you can star your business. It's seems a lot of unpaid time energy effort is needed to get this on the way which I don't necessarily have. It's starting to look as if it's designed for certain people and not everyone. I've also been told once you become diamond you wouldn't need to work ever. Is it worth the hassle?
ReplyDeleteYour Amway up-line is extremely impatient with the idea that an IBO might simply want to buy some Amway products for his own personal use, and be happy with that alone.
ReplyDeleteThey will scream at you: "YOU HAVE TO SHOW THE PLAN!"
The reason for their anger is quite simple -- they know that the entire Amway racket depends on a constant churn of new members being recruited, and that the real profits come from the endless fees and and payments that these members are required to shell out, month after month.
When I told my cousin (who had recruited me into Amway) that I found it very difficult to sell Amway products, he said "The best way to sell Amway stuff is to show people The Plan."
That answer immediately convinced me that Amway was a rip-off, and I quit then and there.