Back sone years ago there was more debate about Amway from critics and defenders alike. But the lengths that some defenders went to were outright BS to creepy at times. I recall some defenders trying to debate the quality of Amway toilet paper and at least one defender was called a cyber bully by an Amway corporate blogger. I’ve even seen numerous personal attacks against critics which are uncalled for.
It seems to me that the most simple defense of Amway would to show how people are making net profits. Except perhaps that Amway defenders simply cannot do this in any meaningful way because Amway’s own disclosures debunk most claims about Amway success. Less than half of all IBOs do anything. Seems they sign up and are never seen again. That in itself seems problematic.
But what about the rest? Well, the rest may attempt to make a sale or sponsor down line but many of these folks are following the teaching of a line of sponsorship which might include WWDB or Network 21 which are for profit companies that exist to make money for the diamonds and higher ups even if you lose your shirt in Amway. Ironically it is the cost of the tools and functions that result in business losses for nearly all IBOs who participate.
A common defense of Amway as presented by the most hard core defenders is that somewhere out there, there is a good Amway where IBOs sell products to regular customers which generates profits to cover the cost of tools and functions and eventually these IBOs move up the ranks until they are net profitable and duplicating these results with their down line. But whenever pressed to show evidence of these groups, Amway defenders fell on their faces or started the personal attacks, name calling and even cyber bullying at one time.
If a “good” Amway exists, I can say I’ve never seen or even heard of it. Back in 2006 I had friended someone who had the equivalent of an emerald business but did not participate in the tools and functions. They actually sold volume of products and had some down line. She said the money was okay, not great but the business was basically a full time job. She is no longer involved last I heard. But this is the only instance I’ve ever heard of like this.
Does anyone know where this good Amway can be found?
When the defenders of Amway still had the balls to come here (they don't anymore), they would proudly proclaim that they hadn't been involved in selling Amway products for years, and only managed their down-lines. This of course was bullshit, since they didn't mention that they still had to maintain a minimum PV level in order to get any checks at all, which meant they still had to spend about $300 a month (not to mention fees for "functions" and other absurdities).
ReplyDeleteThe other line of bullshit they pushed was that Amway "made you a better person," as if that had anything to do with a business enterprise. Or they would claim that all you had to do as an IBO was to "self-consume" Amway products, and recruit others to do the same.
These arguments were so weak and contradictory that eventually even Amway defenders were ashamed to make them. That's the real reason they stopped coming here to debate us.