Tuesday, January 3, 2023

The Numbers?

 One of the things Amway IBOs are taught is to ignore facts, or to ignore numbers. I believe this is because the numbers are not pretty when you take a business-like approach to the math behind the Amway business, for most IBOs. It is why upline teaching often "evolves" into things such as Amway saves marriages, or Amway makes you a nicer person, or that Amway is not about money, it is about friendships. That is a load of garbage. Business is about making a profit. If you hear some of these lines from your upline, it should be a red flag. Upline may also feed you other deceptive lines such as an IBO being successful because they showed up at a function, or because they just signed up for standing order. These are all just false lines to encourage an IBO who is not making money.


When you take a good look at the Amway presentation, the majority of IBOs are at the 100 PV level. At that level, they are spending about $300 monthly to reach 100 PV and for their efforts, they receive approximately a $10 check from Amway. Most IBOs will be encouraged to participate in some kind of system, often consisting of voicemail, websites, cds/audios, books, seminars and other meetings. MOST IBOs will not recoup enough cash to cover any of these expenses, let alone all of them. At a glance, the system expenses may appear nominal such as $6 or $7 for a cd/audio, (WWDB cd/audios cost less if you pay the $50 monthly membership fee, which is basically pre-paying for for cds/audios) $6 or $7 for an open meeting, $100 to $150 for a major function, $12 for a book. It is how upline gets you involved, and then after a while, an IBO starts to notice the negative cash flow and then a tough decision needs to be made. Either quit and cut the losses or press on hoping that the system will eventually deliver on its promises.

What most IBOs don't notice, is that less than one half of one percent ever reach platinum. A fraction of one percent! And in many cases, platinums might break even or even suffer losses! So why would IBOs want to work so hard to reach platinum? They have less than a 1% chance of reaching that level. They have a tiny chance of maintaining that level, and they are still unlikely to earn any significant income at that level. A stody done by an attorney general in Wisconsin (Bruce Craig) revealed that platinum level IBOs averaged a net loss of about $900 annually. While Amway defenders will decry that the study is a bit dated, I will say this: The basics of the Amway business has not changed since that study was done, AND there are actually more system expenses today than there were back then, thus platinums may actually be losing more money annually than before. While not all platinums will lose money, I believe hard core dedicated platinums would stand to lose money.

As an IBO, I hope you are tracking your expenses versus your income. Most IBOs will see a negative cash flow month after month. Even though the Amway business is often promoted as low or no overhead, the system expenses (overhead) eventually begin to add up. Beware and please follow the numbers.

3 comments:

  1. The primary job of Amway up-line is to convince IBOs to ignore all their financial losses. They do this by claiming that the losses are not permanent, 2) the losses are natural in the business, and 3) the losses are a sign of success.

    It's hard to imagine that anyone would be stupid enough to believe number 3. On what planet is a financial loss considered "successful"?

    But I suppose Amway naturally attracts stupid people who don't want to face reality.

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  2. Was taught in the night owls, there are two types of people in the business. 1. Those who make money (meaning running a very profitable business) and 2. Those who hope that they will make money. The 99%+ ibos are in category 2.The whole system, including monthly subscriptions, books and functions are for this group. So they stay in business the longest by keeping their hopes up and to make highest profit off of them while they are in the business. I was in BWW, but It does not matter which team, you are on. Mantra is the same.

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  3. Beg to differ on your last sentence. Amway attracts naive people who are taken advantage of. While in business, we were told to approach a younger crows, who are expecting more from life and willing to trust . That is when they fall prey to crooks who guise as nice guys. However, you realize it only years later and then you stop trusting anything and everything. Once bitten, twice shy.

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