Thursday, June 29, 2017

The Amway Game Plan?

Having blogged for a number of years now, I have observed that IBOs talk a good game about retailing, sponsoring and doing Amway business activities. They will tell you to set yourself up with 20 customers, sponsor 6 frontline, show a number of plans and set up certain follow ups with contacts, and doing other activities supposedly to build an Amway business. I find it very humorous when these same IBOs start throwing insults or diverting the discussion when someone asks if they are actually making money. Of course it would be understandable if a new IBO would admit they had not made a fortune as of yet but it seems that even that response is not forthcoming from IBOs.

It seems that the Amway business is simple enough. Buy some products, sell products and try to sponsor some downline in order to leverage your volume with your downlines. IBOs mistakenly believe that you can build it once correctly and that the income will flow into future generations. What goes unnoticed is that IBOs come and go with such a high frequency, that a business generating residual income would be like a sandcastle on the beach. You might build it nice and big but the waves of attrition would quickly turn that sandcastle into nothing. The same would be true of an Amway business. The IBOs dropping out would wipe out your business unless you are constantly replacing the people who quit. IBOs like to talk about Amway sales and how the company is growing in sales, but the Amway sales have no relationship with making individual IBOs more profitable.

IBOs may also toss in comments about how they are nicer people or how they are improving their marriage because of the Amway business. I often wonder how that can be when functions and meetings take you away from your family and spouse. I suppose it could be because the uplines talk about people being nicer or tossing out lies about Amway and the AMOs saving marriages. I remember a WWDB diamond talking about how WWDB members had a 2% divorce rate while the rest of society has a 60% divorce rate. Ironically, that diamond's marriage ended in divorce. I believe this crap is still taught as a WWDB IBO who blogs, had mentioned this tidbit on his blog some years ago. I don't believe Amwayers or anyone else has a higher or lower rate of divorce than society but it becomes an issue when uplines teach it and their downlines repeat it.

So it would seem that IBOs talk a good game. They know what to say and how to act, but they're like poker players who are bluffing. If you call them on it, they are likely to fold in their hands because they don't have the goods. It is why many Amway discussions turn into a insult contest, when the IBO suddenly gets confronted with facts that are contrary to upline teaching. It's usually quite funny but I wonder if these folks question their upline or go on their merry way repeating uplines lies? It becomes apparent to everyone but the IBO when they are repeating crazy stuff taught by their upline. Good luck to anyone who tries to build this business against nearly insurmountable odds.

10 comments:

Anonymous said...

How have you become so bitter in life towards Amway that you put all this time and energy into constantly repeating yourself?? You must have more to do? If people like the business then great, if not they can leave.

Joecool said...

I spend about 10 minutes per day on this blog. I do it as a hobby and I enjoy it. I'm not bitter about Amway at all. I do think they're a scammy operation and that people seeking information about the opportunity should gain full disclosure and be able to hear about my direct experience. You see, many people who recruit Amway prospects only tell half the story and misrepresent the real data about Amway. I call that lying by omission and I expose the truth so if people have full disclosure and still join Amway, at least they did it with eyes wide open.

Why did you think I was bitter?

Anonymous said...

Notice that Anonymous @ 4:03 PM didn't have a single thing to say in answer to the arguments you gave in your post. All he could do was whine about your being "bitter."

This is so typical of Amway freaks. Never answer an argument -- just attack the personality of the guy who is arguing with you.

BRGwork said...

I personally find that people don't seem to see the difference between an opportunity and a scam. No opportunity can produce results without hard work. If my workers quit after years of training and money involved and spent I don't find excuses, nor consider my business is bad nor complain I have to start finding a new employee again. I think that people too conveniently blame amway for anything that doesn't work to their liking. Let's blame amway for divorces or personal decisions and so on. Ridiculous. Simply. It's a fantastic opportunity, each uses it to their liking and rewards come based on the quality of work and not just work. I don't evaluate my personal sales employees based on the number of calls and emails they do but based of the results of that activity. So let's grow up a bit and stop complaining about companies who don't have anything to do with our failures. And yes, ask me about how much I gain in my classic businesses and I will show you the door! It's up to me and my management how much I make and it's my responsibility. Same with Amway or any other business in the world.

Joecool said...

Hard work doesn't get you success in Amway. MLM is designed to have more losers than winners. Thus hard work has nothing to do with it.

Anonymous said...

To BRGwork:

Do you have a 99% failure rate in your business? Or is that also something you won't tell us?

From the language you use, you are clearly no small IBO in Amway. You are a businessperson with subordinate employees. You talk about "training people" and about "evaluating" your employees.

So why are you here defending Amway as a "great opportunity"? It seems to me that you're involved in pushing Amway (or some other MLM scheme) on other less affluent persons, and reaping the benefit of their hard work while you sit back and collect.

From what I can find on-line, you seem to be Romanian. I guess you are lucky that most persons in Romania don't read English. You wouldn't be able to push Amway if they did.

Michael Bennett said...

I'm an IBO and I can assure you; if you do the work as taught on the Amway website, you will make money. The key; you have to sell product, use product, and inspire others to do the same... all the time...

Joecool said...

How can you sell generic quality products for premium prices?

Anonymous said...

See what I told you, Joe? All the little Amway freaks are coming out of the woodwork.

Your blog is really getting under their skin!

Anonymous said...

Hey Michael Bennett --

How much money have you and your wife lost in Amway so far?