Sunday, March 21, 2021

The Unseen?

I was in discussion on another related forum and a comment was made about Amway being an iceberg, because you see the shiny clean ice on the top but you do not see the majority of the iceberg. Or in other words, the diamonds show you the fancy suits, jewelry, cars, mansions, jets and what you don't see is the financial carnage that takes place in their downlines at times. My former upline would tell audiences that they could skip meals to buy more standing orders because you might hear the one thing that could make your business explode. 

Sure, on standing orders, you won't hear too much of the unethical and "wrong" teaching, because some of this is monitored by Amway, but it's the night owls and smaller group meetings where the real teaching is disseminated. This is where you are told to practically sell your soul to achieve in Amway. This is where the teaching comes in where you should be purchasing excessive amounts of tools in order to succeed. This is where you are told to never miss a function unless it's for your own funeral. A newbie or casual observer won't see these things but if you ever commit to becoming a business builder, this is likely to become your world.

You don't see the backstage at functions and meetings. Former rubies and platinums have made commentary about the diamonds literall laughing about how gullible the downline are. You don't see the where the cash collected at the meetings and functions go. There had been some past comments about literally, suitcases of cash leaving the premises. If your upline has a mansion and a fleet of nice cars, it's likely that your tools money played a significant part in your diamond obtaining it.

It's a simple conclusion. The tools have a higher markup than Amway products and have fewer beneficiaries to split up the bonus. A $7.00 Amway product might cost $3.00 or so to make and the rest will be bonus money split up by the layers of IBOs. Whereas a $7.00 cd might take 50 cents to produce and only platinums and higher receive any compensation from this srouce of income. But rank and file IBOs rarely ever see a true and transparent picture of this business. It is shrouded in secrecy, just like the underside of an iceberg. I challenge IBOs to be real businessmen and women and ask upline the tough questions about where the money is made. Do not accept rhetoric and anecdotal stories. In real business, schedule C business tax returns are the normal way for verification of business income. If you are going to "invest" your hard earned money into the system to the benfit of upline, you should demand this information. 

Would any of you purchase a conventional business from someone without proof that it is profitable? Why would an Amway business be any different?

2 comments:

Anonymous said...

You CAN'T ask any challenging questions of your up-line in Amway. It simply won't be tolerated. You will just be told "Never question up-line!" or be shouted down by other IBOs.

It is useless advising IBOs to ask serious questions or to demand a view of financial records. If these IBOs were actually smart, they would have done all that before joining up in Amway. But they're NOT smart. They're silly, dream-ridden dopes who love all the fakery and bullshit of Amway. Those are the kind of emotion-driven recruits that Amway wants!

You can't fight strong emotion with rational advice. It doesn't work.

Anonymous said...

The whole structure of Amway is run by emotion, enthusiasm, dreaming, and fantasy. Trying to approach the Amway phenomenon rationally and logically simply doesn't get to the core of what is going on in the racket. It's not a business -- it's a mental disease.

The key to it all is this sentence: "Sell the hope, not the soap." The intense emotional drive and fanaticism that are evident in every Amway freak, and that lead such people to become monsters of arrogance and contempt towards their closest friends and family, are not based on anything logical or sensible. Amway freaks have been seized by a dangerous and infectious idea: I CAN BE RICH!! And in slavish obedience to that idea, they will ruthlessly cut anyone and everything from their lives that is unconnected with their quest for wealth.

I've been coming to this website for several years now. What I especially notice about defenders of Amway who come here to argue is how utterly brainless and inarticulate they are. They can't make a valid argument, and they can barely put a coherent English sentence together. They are driven solely by EMOTION and FEELING. It's a telltale sign of a severe mental problem.