Saturday, September 3, 2022

Is Amway A Groupthink Phenomena?

 I have read so many Amway and Amway related articles and posts. Interesting that many who support Amway cannot spell very well. Lots of typos and grammatical errors in here by those who jump up and down reciting Amway's many virtues. It is a scam and a groupthink phenomenon of staggering proportions. From a psychological perspective, Amway does its best to separate people from those who would challenge its legitimacy and operations. This is not unlike how Hitler or any other leader would silence opponents or dissidents by having them "removed" from the equation. Same thing goes here, Amway teaches people to ignore and remove obstacles and people who challenge the system, even if said challenges are completely rational and offered by people with the IBO's best interest in mind. It hits IBO's in soft spots for family, friends, and freedom (the 3 F's), and it entices them to focus on emotional reasoning rather than very cognitive-based, rational dissection of information. 

Amway IBO's are taught emotionalism, not rationalism. From a business perspective, it is a farce. IBO's are not entrepreneurs, as they wear the collars of their uplines. Over and over, I have been told to do as my uplines say. What if my upline is a total moron and I have a law degree and an MBA?? I'm supposed to follow these uplines?? According to the system, yes, the uplines' words are paramount. So no, IBO's are not entrepreneurs and do not gain any real experience. IBO is a fancy name for distributor, pure and simple.  Even if my upline is a young man and I am 50+ years old, I should take counsel from him simply because he joined Amway before me and is designated as my upline?

I had the opportunity to have previous discourse with a number of "diamonds" and "emeralds" in the past, all of whom had either left the business to get real jobs or were still struggling bringing in about $30,000 per year. Many of them are posting massive losses, and by the way, the IRS does not consider prosuming OR tickets to a convention (to hear diamonds scream at you) to be business expenses. Good luck trying to recover those losses. It is likely a pyramid scheme simply because mathematically and considering the law of averages, a downline cannot really earn more than his upline. It just doesn't happen - it's a nice idea, but it doesn't happen. I worked through multiple scenarios with a friend, trying to see how I could out-earn my upline, and we found several variables that would keep that from happening.   Of course, the exception is if you upline quits before you.

Finally, on a personal level, this Amway monkey business cost me a great friendship, an IBO who decided that taking a chance on some crazy dream was more important than those who loved him most. I think he will continue prospecting and pushing "the plan" until there isn't anyone left. If you know someone in Amway or who is thinking seriously about it, you need to realize that they will soon be lost. Amway people are very much like crack users (very similar psychopathology, actually), and they will choose Amway over you, their family, their friends, and anything that gets in the way.

6 comments:

Anonymous said...

Amway has been an incredible platform and offers quality products that are sold at a very reasonable price.
For example: laundry detergent ranges from cheap brands to fancy brands 6/10ths of a $0.01 to $1 per load. The quality Amway detergent has cleaned my clothes better than anything at just $0.35 per load. Not bad.
Nutrilite is an incredible brand which goes way back prior to Amway.
Oh and the audios and reading list are invaluable if you utilize them to grow yourself.
Here’s the thing, this blog is for someone who got butthurt and gave up.
JoeNOTsoCool do you have any other decade grudges against other platforms you started and quit?
The great part is those who understand believe in what Network Marketing the success it can bring are doing it. There are stories upon stories of success decades ago and now of people who surpassed the status quo and didn’t succumbed to the negative mindset.
Amway is the platform with fantastic products that the Team of leaders which I am Involved are some of the most positive and encouraging people I’ve met. Success is a mindset and this blog which I’ve read many of the comments is a tool which promotes a quitter mindset.
Pyramids are fantastic shapes that can metaphorically describe so many things in life.
Good day and God bless!

Anonymous said...

Amway has been an incredible platform and offers quality products that are sold at a very reasonable price.
For example: laundry detergent ranges from cheap brands to fancy brands 6/10ths of a $0.01 to $1 per load. The quality Amway detergent has cleaned my clothes better than anything at just $0.35 per load. Not bad.
Nutrilite is an incredible brand which goes way back prior to Amway.
Oh and the audios and reading list are invaluable if you utilize them to grow yourself.
Here’s the thing, this blog is for someone who got butthurt and gave up.
JoeNOTsoCool do you have any other decade grudges against other platforms you started and quit?
The great part is those who understand believe in what Network Marketing the success it can bring are doing it. There are stories upon stories of success decades ago and now of people who surpassed the status quo and didn’t succumbed to the negative mindset.
Amway is the platform with fantastic products that the Team of leaders which I am Involved are some of the most positive and encouraging people I’ve met. Success is a mindset and this blog which I’ve read many of the comments is a tool which promotes a quitter mindset.
Pyramids are fantastic shapes that can metaphorically describe so many things in life.
Good day and God bless!

Anonymous said...

Amway has been an incredible platform and offers quality products that are sold at a very reasonable price.
For example: laundry detergent ranges from cheap brands to fancy brands 6/10ths of a $0.01 to $1 per load. The quality Amway detergent has cleaned my clothes better than anything at just $0.35 per load. Not bad.
Nutrilite is an incredible brand which goes way back prior to Amway.
Oh and the audios and reading list are invaluable if you utilize them to grow yourself.
Here’s the thing, this blog is for someone who got butthurt and gave up.
JoeNOTsoCool do you have any other decade grudges against other platforms you started and quit?
The great part is those who understand believe in what Network Marketing the success it can bring are doing it. There are stories upon stories of success decades ago and now of people who surpassed the status quo and didn’t succumbed to the negative mindset.
Amway is the platform with fantastic products that the Team of leaders which I am Involved are some of the most positive and encouraging people I’ve met. Success is a mindset and this blog which I’ve read many of the comments is a tool which promotes a quitter mindset.
Pyramids are fantastic shapes that can metaphorically describe so many things in life.
Good day and God bless!

Anonymous said...

Joe, you are definitely on to something when you suggest a parallel between Amway freaks and crack users. Abusers of crack cocaine show an intense emotional connection to the drug, and a passionate loyalty to the high that it brings. The same thing happens in Amway -- the committed "CORE" type will do anything and everything to maintain the Amway link, even if it is crystal-clear that doing so will destroy his family or send him in bankruptcy. A crack addict will take death over rehabilitation, or recognition that the drug is a serious problem, rather than give up that high. And an Amway CORE type will react similarly -- the insane hype and "dreaming" of Amway propagnada is too pleasurable for him.

Anonymous said...

Of course Amway is held together by Groupthink. That's the only thing that could keep idiots from dropping out of the racket. Amway is mortally opposed to independent, free, unconstrained thinking, which is enjoyed by unbrainwashed people who have a mind of their own.

If you so much as breathe a single syllable of criticism against Amway, your up-line and the IBOs arpund you will hit you like a SWAT Team.

Anonymous said...

Notice that the Amway asshole who posted at the top of this thread put up the exact same message THREE TIMES! What a putz.