Thursday, September 24, 2015

Winners Join Amway?

One of the things that my upline taught, and I believe is still taught today in various groups is that winners join Amway and losers do not. Kind of makes me wonder about the "most" who "do nothing" after joining. I also heard that you're a winner because you were doing something to better your financial future and those who didn't were losers or broke minded. Of course the upline who said this had no knowledge about those who were not in Amway. Some of them may already have been financially sound or may have been doing something to better their financial future. I'm not sure why these uplines, who promote "positive" thoughts, had to resort to calling people losers simpy because they did not agree that Amway was the greatest thing since sliced bread.

In many games or sporting events, there will be someone or a team that wins the game and someone or a team that loses the game. Losing a game doesn't make you a loser and certainly, a team that wins the game would not say the losing team were losers. Can you imagine a pro football team's coach taking the podium after a game and saying his team won because the other team was a bunch or broke minded gutless losers? That would never happen, yet we see that frequently in the Amway world. The owner of Amway, Rich DeVos had once said in a recorded message that just because people do not agree with you (paraphrased) about Amway, does not make them losers and that IBOs should not call people losers.

In all of this, people's jobs are also criticized. That a job stands for "just over broke" or "jackass of the boss" and other blurbs. Many IBO's goals and dreams consist of ditching their job so they can sleep all day and live a life of luxury. Ironically, it is most IBO's jobs that continue to produce income so they can pay their bills and feed their family. It is also an IBO's job that funds their Amway and AMO expenses such as product purchases and functions and voicemail, etc. Without having a job, most people could not even join Amway or pay for any tools. Sadly, most IBOs won't make any money in Amway either, and will have to continue to work at their jobs. I do not believe that someone earning an honest living working a job is a loser. Ironically, the folks calling people losers are often not even netting a profit from their Amway business!

Yes, in this business or the sports world, there will be winners and there will be losers. The question is whether you are the one who is allowed to be the judge of who is and who isn't. I would also suggest that IBOs are completely shutting down potential future business by their behavior. What if I went to a store to purchase something but the item was not available on that particular day, so I don't purchase anything and leave. As I leave, the store owner says I am a loser for not buying something there. Will I go back? Very unlikely. If an IBO truly sees themselves as a store owner, all prospects should be seen as potential business, whether future or present. If your upline tells you that people not interested are losers, you should kick him where the sun doesn't shine.

Only winners join Amway? Think again!


Anonymous said...

From what you mentioned, and from some things I've read on other blogs, I get the impression that Rich De Vos is somewhat depressed and annoyed about the way that his Amway business has developed over the last few decades. Oh sure, he's happy about being rich. But the sick, cultish turn that Amway has taken under crackpots like Dexter Yager and others seems to have turned him off. De Vos can't do anything about it now, since the Amway empire is firmly rooted in these totalitarian, cultish, mind-controlling methods. But maybe this is not what De Vos had in mind in the early days. Perhaps he and his partner sincerely wanted to build a business that gave ordinary people a chance to gain financial freedom.

When my cousin was trying to get me into Amway back in 1971, he played a tape for me from one of those big meetings. The two founders were still alive. I don't recall now if it was De Vos or Van Andel who spoke, but here's what was said. The speaker told of a case where a distributor (that's what they were called back then) had recruited someone to be in "the Plan." This distributor had also convinced his new recruit to buy $5000 worth of Amway products, so that he and his sponsor could immediately "go Direct." I'm not sure what that means, but it probably was like becoming what they call a Platinum now.

Anyhow, the speaker said that he had found out about this scam, and went to see the new recruit. He was shocked to see the poor man's garage packed with $5000 worth of Amway products that would probably take years to sell. The speaker then said "I called a delivery service, I had them pack up all of those products, and I had them sent straight back C.O.D. to the distributor who had talked the poor guy into buying all of it! And I called that distributor up and said if he ever tried to pull a stunt like that again, he'd be out of Amway in a flash! In this business, you cannot take advantage of an inexperienced down-line recruit!"

Maybe it was De Vos, or maybe it was Van Andel who was the speaker. I can't remember now. But I wonder if anybody in the company would raise an eyebrow nowadays if a distributor abused his down-line in this fashion.

Joecool said...

If you google. "Amway directly speaking DeVos", you can find a transcript or a video of Devos in 1983 declaring that the "tools" are a pyramid scam. But when he tried to implement a clean up, the big pins like Britt called a boycott of Amway products and Amway sales fell. Apparently, DeVos caved in and the tool companies thrived.

Amway did some cosmetic changes to at least try to rein in some abuses but the thing that made a difference was the 2004 Dateline expose' on Amway.

Anonymous said...

If devos was serious he would have kicked the guy out straight away

Anonymous said...

In Amway, everything is money. Those bigshot diamonds would pimp out their own sisters if it brought in an extra dime of revenue.

Joecool said...

Yep, the diamonds worship money and will do anything to get it.