Friday, September 16, 2016

What Fruit Is On Your Upline's Tree?

I had a good chuckle recently when some Amway apologists spoke about looking at the "fruit on the tree". One commentator said his parents were broke and he looked to his diamond since the diamond apparently had fruit on the tree. I thought about this concept and I agree, that perhaps we should look at fruit on the tree.

IBOs and Amway prospects, please ask your upline platinum or diamond to show you the fruit on their tree. Ask them to see their (business) financial statements. Or ask to see their schedule C or 1099 form from Amway to verify their Amway earnings. This is not a personal question, but a standard business question. This is actually a common practice in real business. When a friend of mine sold his business a few years back, he made three year's worth of income tax returns to show prospective buyers. He showed his personal and business taxes. It paints a real picture of your financials.

As far as I know, not one single bigger pin has ever shown their business financials voluntarily. In fact, if it made certain bigger pins look good, why wouldn't they want to "show their fruit". They certainly don't mind showing off diamond rings, fancy clothes, sports cars and the like. What many IBOs don't understand is that fancy cars and other toys is no evidence of fruit on the tree. Some diamonds were forced to show their financials due to financial problems. A triple diamond went bankrupt (chapter 7) and his finances were revealed. He made half a million dollars in a year from Amway. A great income but let's face it. You're not buying mansions and jets in cash with that kind of income. And his financial acumen is in question if he had to file chapter 7. (Never mind the lack of integrity in filing chapter 7)

It has been discussed that some diamonds may rent cars or fancy homes and try to imply that they own these items. Some diamonds, possibly many diamonds in the past have lied or embellished the truth about paying for everything in cash, including their homes and cars. They also at times, have given the audience the impression that these luxuries are all purchased with Amway income, and we know that many diamonds have probably had supplemental income from the systems, or other business ventures outside of Amway. The most common venture is getting paid for selling cds, books, voicemail, and seminar tickets. It's a lucrative business to sell people training, regardless of whether the training helps or not.

We also know that some diamonds are in debt, but simply try to portray an excessive lifestyle. (See Ruth Carter's Book: Amway Motivational Organizations, Behind the Smoke and Mirrors). Some diamonds may have a substantial income, but it doesn't mean they are financially free and able to live a jetset lifestyle that many portray. It is an illusion, possibly to be able to attract new prospects into the business.

So yes, let us actually see the fruit on the tree. What fruit? Bankruptcies and home foreclosures are not the kinds of fruit I want to consume.


Anonymous said...

If a Triple Diamond only made $500,000 per year from his Amway business, then how much less does an ordinary Diamond make? Does he make $125,000 per annum? That's hardly enough for a jet-set lifestyle as advertised at those stupid Amway functions.

The "wealth" in Amway is like the pasteboard backdrops that you find in a Hollywood movie lot. It's all just propped up and painted, with nothing behind it.

Joecool said...

When looking at diamond income, it is very important to make the distinction between a diamond and a founder's diamond. A founder has downline platinums that qualified all 12 months of the year. A founder's diamond is rare, but makes much more than a diamond. A regular diamond might make $150K to $200K. After taxes and business expenses, they are likely a middle class family.

One more thing to note. Most of a diamond's income is in the form of an annual bonus so it would not be surprising at all if a diamond struggled month to month until the annual bonus arrives.