Happy new year to all the readers of this blog and to all the Amway prospects and IBOs. No doubt that 2020 was a tough year for many, including the diamonds. Nobody could have seen the damage that was caused by covid 19. It surely changed the way that you lived your life and ran your Amway business.
From what I read, it seemed that Amway IBOs struggled with the pandemic and business was curtailed. I would have thought that Amway would have flourished. I mean businesses like Amazon, Walmart and Target had huge sales and their stock price increased significantly because they were deemed essential and were open when covid restrictions closed many other kinds of businesses.
Amway should have been booming because they carry essential products that were in demand such as cleaning products and toilet paper. Where I live, these products were hard to get back in the summer months. I don’t see why Amway goods wouldn’t be just as in demand but based on my observations, that didn’t seem to be the case.
Is it possible that Amway didn’t flourish because they are not really about movement of products but more about the recruitment of more and more IBOs? I received messages that diamonds were desperately putting together virtual functions which made little sense when the cities restricted people from being out and about. Why would you need to pay full price for a function when you can’t even go out for a meal in your city?
Why weren’t IBOs inundated with orders for commodities like toilet paper and sanitizing products? What exactly were the diamonds teaching? Recruiting via social media? These are strange times we are living in but I know this. People may need things in a covid 19 world but apparently, Amway goods and the Amway business don’t seemingly rank high on the priority list for many people. I wonder why?
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Dang, what a crushing observation about the Amway "business". I agree that Amway businesses should have been raking in the cash during the pandemic. My experience has been the price point is not affordable and the Amway distribution channels are not sufficient. They are no Amazon.
Ouch. Harsh...Party of 1. Your table is ready.
This might fall on the IBOAI though. They are the ones that run the show and move the goalposts for themselves to benefit.
They should have looked at increasing the IBO discount to lower the prices of some of their products to make them competitive with what one might find in retail stores. The margins on those are crazy high anyways, so lowering the prices would have allowed more product to be moved.
But that would mean that the business is actually about moving product. And we all know that it is not.
I too have heard that that my old organization moved forward with virtual meetings and events and Upline Platinums and above were chasing down people a) to show up to them via Zoom and b) harassing people to pay for the weekly recruiting meetings and regional seminars via CashApp while still charging full price for the quarterly functions.
But then again, I thought the business was so simple that all you had to do was buy from yourself and get paid to do it...
As Brad Pitt's character says in Ocean's Eleven...".. slightly more complicated than that."
I once heard that at a Q12, that Dan Severn (of WWDB fame) had a bunch of people around him at dinner and asked an IBO, "Do you believe?" Of course the IBO said yes. Apparently he was giving some amazing attitude session (another term for just being angry and ranting why more people don't sign up), and of course, many people were around him trying to get "nuggets" that nobody could move.
Not exactly how I would want to spend dinner...sitting around some curmudgeon complaining and being miserable while having several million in the bank.
It will be interesting to see what amway 2020 sales are
If there is not a significant decrease it will be astonishing
Amway was completely fucked in 2020, but the decision right now is to either fudge the figures, or postpone publication of them for several months. There's an argument going on about which path to follow, according to my source at WWDB.
In the nightmare year of 2020, no business was going to see great profits if the business was linked to recruitment of new members and the bleeding of those members for fees, tools, function tickets, and monthly purchases of unneeded stuff. It simply wasn't going to happen in the disruptions of an epidemic and an economic lockdown. But since it is high treason in Amway to "be negative," the company and all of its AMO subsystems will be screaming about how "wonderful" business has been. It's pure bullshit.
Yes, also awaiting their numbers for 2020, it is usually released around mid February. Though in my country, at least during spring 2020, all the vitamine pills they sell were quite in demand, to the point, that several dozens products were sold out for a month or more. What a great business opportunity, to do shopping in your own shop.... Which is sold out... Unlimited possibilities, with limited amounts of goods... Ok :-)
Do you actually think that Amway "is a great business opportunity," or are you just being sarcastic?
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So please post a link to support your claim. I doubt you'll return.
The commenter "k d" is lying through his teeth. But this is exactly what your up-line tells you to do -- make up completely false shit and push it furiously whenever anyone points put the unpleasant facts about Amway.
Amway "tripled its sales"? On what planet does this idiot "k d" live?
The truth about Amway raking in cash during the pandemic is that IBO's sell bars for $20-30 a box and amazon, target, walmart, etc. sell a similar bar for 1/4 of that price. Any IBO who thinks that AMWAY bars are a great deal is a fool. Really.
We were platinums in the BWW scam system.
I am very curious how Amway Diamonds have been doing during the pandemic in their,.as my old upline used to say, "pandemic proof" business.
My assumption is their income dropped to low level emerald level, possibly less. In the line I was in, the platinums we're spread thin and stacked with buying products to stay in qualification. As the pandemic hit, I am assuming they could not sustain.
Any updates?
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We were platinums in the BWW scam system.
I am very curious how Amway Diamonds have been doing during the pandemic in their,.as my old upline used to say, "pandemic proof" business.
My assumption is their income dropped to low level emerald level, possibly less. In the line I was in, the platinums we're spread thin and stacked with buying products to stay in qualification. As the pandemic hit, I am assuming they could not sustain.
Any updates?
I can only speak from what I have heard people say from the URA side and I left them multiple years ago.
They still had their weekly meetings over Zoom ($5 a head via CashApp/Venmo/Other to Upline). I think they had a couple of seminars via Zoom ($15 a head). And they hosted conferences over Zoom ($93 a head). Gone was the overhead for some time for hotel meeting rooms, churches, school auditoriums, and big hotel ballrooms.
Either last Summer or in the Fall, they returned to in-person meetings, seminars, and conferences. And I know that for some of the conferences, release forms had to be signed (that was one thing that group was big on...talk about paranoia).
Membership dropped some, but there was an Emerald couple who apparently went Diamond so good for them.
I was told that some IBOs did lose interest; hence the membership drop. Business volume dropped from customers (even though URA still strongly pushes IBOs to have 300PV by the 5th with a big Ditto processing on the 1st).
That's all I know. Have you heard much from your former colleagues in BWW?
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