Monday, March 1, 2021

Is Amway Like Gambling?

Let me make a disclaimer right off the top so Amway defenders don't try to discredit the post without actually reading it. The Amway opportunity is not a game of chance. But I will go on to explain how and why the opportunity can be compared to gambling and why the diamonds can be seen as a casino or the "house".   Its also sad if Amway is not a game of chance but produces results similar to a game of chance.  

In the Amway opportunity, the odds against someone going diamond are astronomical. Literally millions of people have attempted to build an Amway business in North America over the years and diamond club for North Anerican diamonds some years back had 160 diamond-ships represented. (I checked with an Amway source for that information). Certainly some north American diamonds may have turned down a free trip to Hawaii but I'm guessing that's not a big number. 

The odds are also stacked in favor of the diamonds. Casinos are not built by winners, but by the hoards of losers. Just as a diamond business is not built by having a foundation of winners, but layers and layers of IBOs who are losing. The Amway opportunity is simply set up that way. Look at your common 6-4-2 plan or whatever version your group uses. The newest or biggest layer of IBOs make very little and when you factor in expenses such as functions or standing orders, the losses can be staggering. 

A diamond, like a casino will attract many young dreamers who think they can conquer the world and will get rich. They use bright lights and profile former winners just as Diamonds show off fancy cars and testimonies to lure in recruits. The newness of the opportunity gets you excited, just as someone walking into a casino might feel the excitement with the sounds of the casino. All you need is some effort and little luck right? Sadly, that excitement is all too often replaced with the harsh reality that most must lose in order for there to be a few winners, both in casinos and the Amway business. 

Like casinos and diamond uplines, there is much caring for active IBOs and for players who are spending their money in casinos. But once you walk out of the casino, there is no special treatment, just as an IBO who stops building a business or stops being core quickly becomes forgotten and shunned. In Amway, people who said they were lifelong friends were never heard from again once an IBO missed a few meetings. If you re-emerge, you will find the love again, just as you will get free drinks when you start gambling again.

And yes, there are some exceptional people who can scratch out a nice living by gambling but they are few and far between, just as there are diamonds, but diamonds also have thousands of people who wanted diamond but could not achieve it. Those who can finally make it usually have an exceptional blend of skill and a bit of luck. Some even cheat/lie in order to gain a bigger edge, both in gambling and in Amway. 

Like a gambling "system", the Amway opportunity has "systems". In either opportunity, the system doesn't work for the masses. There are an exceptional few who can make it work. Except in gambling, most people understand that the odds are stacked against them. In Amway, many new IBOs are told that anyone and everyone can succeed when it simply is not true. 

Can you fulfill your dreams by gambling or with the Amway opportunity? The answer is yes, but the reality is that few will ever do so. Like casinos and Amway diamond-ships, both are built on the backs of those who lose, not on those who win.

7 comments:

Anonymous said...

I had a friend who was a professional gambler. He was good at it. He could handicap horse races, and always came out ahead. He knew how to keep track of cards, and was a big winner at blackjack. Even with house games like roulette and craps, he knew when to bet and when to not bet, and almost always had winnings. One night he took home $54,000 from Atlantic City.

But he was a mathematical expert! He could figure out odds in his head like a computer! His brain was like a calculating machine! He could memorize hundreds of numbers in just a few minutes! That was the source of his success as a gambler. It is a very rare gift that few people have.

And very few people have the requirements to be successful in Amway, or in any other MLM racket. You have to be a skilled hustler, a proficient liar, a bullshit-spouter, and a con-man with no conscience to make it in Amway.

Jerry said...

Hi Joe! Big fan! But you said: "Just as a diamond business is not built by having a foundation of winners, but layers and layers of IBOs who are losing". Doesn't a diamond make more money when the layers under him are also successful and winning, not losing as you say?
Also, do you play 8 ball pool (online game)? I just played against a Joe in the US who had a snoopy cartoon with shades as his profile pic. Was that you in the Singapore tournament game I played against an hour ago? Thanks, buddy! Never stop!

Jerry said...

Also, what do you estimate is the average amount of money an IBO ends up losing before they give up? How much do you estimate you lost?

Joecool said...

Hi Jerry, A diamond could be more successful if layers of downline were successful but that doesn't happen. If it did, diamonds would be popping up left and right. Hawaii has fewer diamonds now than when I was an IBO. I only know of two diamonds in Hawaii right now. There were like 5 or 6 20+ years ago. Thats not progress.

No I don't play online games.

The average IBO loses money but the amount depends on the level of commitment to the "system". The more tools, the bigger the losses.

Jerry said...

Thanks, Joe! How much do you estimate you lost total?

Anonymous said...

#Joecoel, first of: admire your integrity, and persistence. We were in this infamous organization. Not proud but rather ashamed that we allowed this deception in our lives. Their god is GREED, the mentioned person above a tank and his current spouse is a tigress. Will trample and go over human lives. I can’t express enough my regret of wasted 7 years . Our upline ended up in an ugly divorce. Unfortunately before we signed up we went to our pastor and he endorsed them. Later he ended up in a huge scandal himself. But to all who want to argue: you choose to be deceived, it is your choice. Do not tell we didn’t try to warn you: R.U.N!

Joecool said...

Amway is supposed to save marriages if you believe the upline. LOL