Sunday, March 14, 2021

What's Likely In Amway?

Many IBOs join Amway thinking they will go diamond and their lives will be easy after that. No more job, no more boss, and living in the lap of luxury. Afterall, uplines parade themselves on stage showing you slide shows and picture of jets, mansion, sports cars, etc. I suppose they don't aloways tell the audience that the trappings may not actually be owned by them. But still, it draws a great deal of excitement from the audience and the speaker may tell everyone to dream about having the same luxuries - if only you will listen to their advice and follow their system. 

Oddly, most IBOs don't do a thing. Many who sign up don't even bother to place an order and most who sign up won't renew their business after one year. But these folks who basically do nothing aren't the victims of deception. These folks who "do nothing" got what they put into the business. It is the IBOs who do put in an effort and purchase what is often promoted as "foolproof" tools that fall victim to the promoters of the system. Many new and ongoing IBOs who are determined to succeed are often told that they "need" the system, that they cannot possibly succeed without tools, just as a carpenter cannot build homes without a hammer and nails. So many IBOs, wanting a better life, will make the investment in the tools, thinking their success is assured with that investment and and some elbow grease tossed in.

Sadly, the system does not work. Of course there are some new diamonds emerging every now and then but they are the exception and not the rule. My former LOS, WWDB seems to be going backwards. I believe there are fewer diamonds today than when I was active some years ago. Furthermore, some WWDB diamonds were embroiled in home foreclosures, bankruptcy, and some actually walked away from WWDB altogether. 

There is ZERO, I repeat, ZERO unbiased evidence that any of these system tools help someone to build an Amway business. Showing a new diamond on stage as evidence of system success proves nothing. The diamonds don't show the hundreds of thousands of people who may have made the same effort only to fail. It's like showinng off the winners of the lottery. Sure there are winners but the reality and the typical result will be multitudes of losers contributing their money in order for one big winner to emerge. While the Amway business is not a game of chance, the ultimate outcome and results are just like a lottery.

Amway diamonds and promoters like to show people "what is possible", but they neglect to discuss with prospects "what is likely". If you are researching a business opportunity, you should be wanting to know "what is likely" or what are the typical results. If people only search for best case scenario results and ignore what is likely to happen, they are almost assured of failure. For most IBOs, the typical result is to spend $300 a month on products, many of which you never used before, and another $200 to $300 for training that doesn't work. That is typical and likely for many IBOs who work the business. Their return on their investment of time and money is about $10 in monthly income. Sure, there are some diamonds who earn over $100,000 a year from Amway, but that experience is unusual, not the likely result of joining the Amway business.

Someone researching a franchise opportunity such as McDonald's for example, will want to know what the average owner/operator earns. Knowing only the best case scenario doesn't help and while a real business owner may be interested in the best case situation, that same owner is likely to be more interested in the likely results. Why should Amway IBOs be different?

5 comments:

Jerry said...

How can diamonds have jets if they are making only 150k/year?

Anonymous said...

What's likely in Amway is that you'll lose a shitload of money.

Will said...

With all us folks in the U.S getting a new round of stimulus checks for 1,400, I been hearing through the grape vines that Amway uplines are in full blown con artist mode. They are telling downlines to NOT spend their stimulus checks on important things like bills, food, rent, or personal enjoyment. Instead, they been REALLY pressuring downline to buy into the tool scam like buying books, audios, and expensive tickets to ZOOM conferences SMH. Also, stockpiling lots of garbage Amway products.

I had one of my friends former girlfriends lost her previous stimulus check that was 1,200 to Amway because he upline pressured to her to use that money on tools and amway products. He told her that if she didn't use the money for her "business" he would end the "partnership". This was despite knowing the she was struggling with bills and such. Even told her not to buy groceries and just eat Amway meal bars instead of real food SMH.

Just gross these people take advantage of people during a flipping pandemic!!!

Jerry said...

So sad to hear that, Will. But thank you for keeping us posted about how Amway is operating under Covid. Tickets to zoom? That's like paying monthly for CommuniKate when you could do it all for free with any app (if uplines weren't making their real profits from tools) : )

When I was first prospected by an Amway cult member, I was so sad and angry that they were scamming the public. Then I realized the scam was on them, not me! On 99.997% of them. On cult members who saw the clear signs of how this was obviously manipulative, and yet they still decided to go into the business of manipulating/love-bombing/pressuring/guilting/shaming/ghosting people into joining Amway and yet still made an adult, conscious decision to do that to people (and family and friends) so they could be "rich" one day. Sometimes I don't feel sympathy for them because of that. But sometimes I still feel sorry for people like that girl, Will.

Anonymous said...

Maybe with a fractional jet ownership program. It's like a timeshare for private jets. Plus it's deductible on taxes.