Sunday, October 3, 2021

Is Amway An Iceberg?

 I was in discussion on another forum and a comment was made about Amway being an iceberg, because you see the shiny clean ice on the top but you do not see the majority of the iceberg. Or in other words, the diamonds show you the fancy suits, jewelry, care, mansions, jets and what you don't see is the financial carnage that takes place in their downlines at times. My former upline would tell audiences that they could skip meals to buy more standing orders because you might hear the one thing that could make your business explode.

Sure, on standing orders, you won't hear too much of the unethical and "wrong" teaching, because some of this is monitored by Amway, but it's the night owls and smaller group meetings where the real teaching is disseminated. This is where you are told to practically sell your soul to achieve in Amway. This is where the teaching comes in where you should be purchasing excessive amounts of tools in order to succeed. This is where you are told to never miss a function unless it's for your own funeral. A newbie or casual observer won't see these things but if you ever commit to becoming a business builder, this is likely to become your world.

You don't see the backstage at functions and meetings. Former rubies and platinums have made commentary about the diamonds literally laughing about how gullible the downline are. You don't see the where the cash collected at the meetings and functions go. There had been some past comments about literally, suitcases of cash leaving the premises. If your upline has a mansion and a fleet of nice cars, it's likely that your tools money played a significant part in your diamond obtaining it.

It's a simple conclusion. The tools have a higher markup than Amway products and have fewer beneficiaries to split up the bonus. A $7.00 Amway product might cost $3.00 or so to make and the rest will be bonus money split up by the layers of IBOs. Whereas a $7.00 cd might take 50 cents to produce and only platinums and higher receive any compensation from this source of income. But rank and file IBOs rarely ever see a true and transparent picture of this business. It is shrouded in secrecy, just like the underside of an iceberg. I challenge IBOs to be real businessmen and women and ask upline the tough questions about where the money is made. Do not accept rhetoric and anecdotal stories. In real business, schedule C business tax returns are the normal way for verification of business income. If you are going to "invest" your hard earned money into the system to the benefit of upline, you should demand this information.

Would any of you purchase a conventional business from someone without proof that it is profitable? Why would an Amway business be any different?


Anonymous said...

The notion that you have to attend every Amway meeting because "You might hear the one thing you need to know to make your business explode" is insane. That is, it's insane if you actually stop and think about it for two seconds, which most Amway IBOs are too stupid to do.

Imagine that you were in training to be an electrician. And imagine you were steadily learning all the details of electrical circuits and fuses and wiring and everything else required in that trade. And imagine that when you were done and had become a proficient and skilled electrician, your trainer came to you and said "You have to keep attending meetings of electricians every week, and pay me for them, because at one of those meetings YOU JUST MIGHT HEAR THE ONE THING that will make your business as an electrician explode!"

Is that reasonable? Is that sensible? Or is it just a ploy to get you to keep on paying tuition feeds for an education that is completed?

So to all you lying Diamonds, Platinums, and other fat-assed big pins: If there is ONE THING YOU NEED TO KNOW TO MAKE YOUR AMWAY BUSINESS EXPLODE, just tell us right now what the fuck it is. Right now! Here! At Joe Cool's blog! Just put it into a simple English sentence, so that IBOs don't have to keep showing up for your stupid night owls and half-assed "functions."

I dare you to give us a straight answer.

Anonymous said...

Excellent points.

When I first started in Amway (URA) over six years ago, I was curious that a) there were "Business Briefings" every week and b) I had to pay to attend them.

I never asked because how DARE someone asks Upline why something is the case. If one did, that would be considered being disobedient and not "all in" with their coach I guess.

I figured that we had to pay to attend the meetings because the team had to pay to rent the hotel ballroom for the night. I always felt a little weirded out by that. But still, if these are Diamonds and Emeralds, shouldn't they be financially independent enough to fork over the cash to rent the rooms?

And then I realized that 160 to 200 people would pay their $5 to attend the meetings with much of that covering the room and the rest going all the way to the top of the organization as profit. They always made us sign in as well which I thought was uncalled for.

And I never really thought it was necessary to have these meetings weekly and that it was necessary to attend all of these meetings. Now I get it. The more people that attend, the more money the top of the organization makes. This probably supercedes the push to get out guests to every meeting to have someone show them the plan.

By the way...side note. I found it interesting during my last days in URA that the then-Emeralds (apparently, they've convinced enough losers to stick around and buy copious amounts of product they will never need or tools they will never use and they will be recognized as Diamonds this month) who were apparently retired, were actually both working regular jobs. Then, I realized that it was all BS and that they were not only NOT totally free because of their involvement with Amway, but they were not free from their regular jobs.