Wednesday, May 23, 2012

Can Amway IBOs Give A Straight Answer?

One of the humorous things about Amway IBOs is their ability to say a whole lot without having any substance. They'll talk about how great the business is and how much they have learned and then when you ask if they made any money, you either get dead silence or you get some answer about how they's seen a copy of a check from someone's upline diamond or something like that. But it's very rare that an IBO will be upfront about their earnings. Of course I can understand that someone brand new might not have made a whole lot, but I have seen some IBOs outright lie and say they've been in Amway a month and they're making $5000 a month or some other tall tale like like.

Even when discussing some Amway released information such as the average earnings of an IBO, you can hear all kinds of excuses provided by Amwayers. They will make excuses like most IBOs do nothing. As if that isn't a problem in itself. Or they make stupid analogies about people signing up for a gym membership and then not doing anything. As if owning a business and exercising are the same thing. I even hear questionable claims about how so many people sign up as IBOs to get lower prices. I chuckle when I hear that because Amway's prices in general, are not competitive with big retailers. I believe that is because Amway must add the cost of IBO bonuses in the cost of their goods and services. While an IBO might save from the full retail price of Amway products, you can (in most cases) find the same or a similar product cheaper online or at Walmart.

Another area where IBOs like to divert the discussion is when the discussion is about the success rate of IBOs in general. Based on Amway's own numbers, less than one half of one percent of IBOs reach the level of platinum. Platinum is the level where allegedly, an IBO either breaks even or starts to make some net profit. It would depend on whether the IBO is involved in the tools and to whet level of participation. But IBOs like to downplay this fact as if people simply did not work hard enough or did not learn enough, rather than simply acknowledging that the system itself might be flawed.

The last area I see issues is when talking about selling products. I suspect that product sales to no IBOs is relatively small. I believe there may be some exceptional people who can sell, but people in general, do not like to or do not possess the skills to sell products. Yet I see IBOs making all kinds of stories about "selling" to customers. I rarely get a straight answer about product sales as well. The fact that many Amway IBOs can't give a straight answer is quite telling.


Anonymous said...

Hi Joecool, thanks for this site! I am looking for a list of names &/or products Amway operates under. Any links you might refer me to? It seems if you ask a person straight out they will deny any affiliation. I'm concerned as a friend of mine might be falling for this bull & moving out of state to start her own business with a guy who has Amway & Artistry US listed as his interests right on his Facebook. Yet when questioned he claims he just put that on there for his mom. Makes no sense & reading some of your & Anna Banana's blog she is speaking some of the same Amway jargon I've come across & it's worrisome. There's a computer, web design &/or coffee aspect to it

Joecool said...

Amway just operates under the name of Amway. Amway USA used to be called Quixtar but they are now back to Amway. If you go to, you can see what kinds of products they have. It's common for IBOs to deny being a part of Amway because the Amway name, at least in the US, often has a negative connotation. You're also free to contact me by email. My profile has the contact info.

Anonymous said...

Thanks Joe!