Tuesday, May 22, 2012

Why Do Amway IBOs Criticize Jobs?

One of the things that IBO leaders do quite often in their recruitment pitch for Amway, is to put down people's jobs. They criticize people's bosses and the fact that an employee needs to report somewhere to earn a living. They try to paint the picture of a job being compared to slavery. They do this apparently to make people feel uncomfortable with their present situation so they will be open to looking at the Amway opportunity as a means to make a living. They may call a job "just over broke" or "jackass of the boss".

So I will ask - What's wrong with a job? A job is not slavery. People apply for their jobs and they agree to a wage or salary in exchange for their services. Certainly, you can leverage a higher wage or salary if you have an education or a skill, such as being able to work in the construction field. A job ususally offers more than just a wage. A job often allows one to have benefits such as medical insurance, a 401K retirement plan, and some other benefits such as paid vacation and/or sick leave.

A recent site visitor bemoans concept of working for minimum wage, where a husband and wife would earn in the neighborhood of 30K if they both work full time at minimum wage. Of course, a high school student can earn minimum wage so two adults only able to generate that kind of income makes me think my site visitor is speaking of people with very little to offer an employer. Most people may start out as entry level, but earn more and more as they gain experience and can offer more to their employer. An employee might also be able to promote themselves if they can prove to the employer that they can manage more responsibility.

What does the average Amway business owner experience? $115 a month income (which is probably way above average)? Most IBOs as outlined in "the plan" earn about $10 a month and may have expenses such as standing order which will take away from that tiny profit. Thus an average business building IBO stands to net a loss. It is very easy to look at the math and make that conclusion. A dedicated IBO attending meetings and functions and buying the other tools will likely spend more than $200 a month on average to be on the system. Couples will spend more.

So I ask again. What's wrong with a job? You have a net gain each and every month, be able to pay for your living expenses, and allow you to contribute to society by paying taxes. The average CORE IBO is a drain on the US tax paying society by spending money on standing order and functions and then deducting these expenses when filing their taxes. The only beneficiary is the upline leaders who sell standing orders and function tickets. If the IRS actually took IBOs to task, I'd be interested to see what kinds of deductions would be not allowed? I bet it would help the US treasury to recover all that money.

14 comments:

Anonymous said...

You got it! Not to mention the fact that with a job, you also sometimes get health insurance and retirement benefits. Does Amway offer those types of benefits?

Joecool said...

In Amway, you work for commissions only and the expenses associated with moving the products is yours.

Anonymous said...

The ironic part is that without the IBO having a job themselves (or their spouse), they could not AFFORD to spend money on their so-called business, because credit cards can only be maxed out once as well as bank account emptied before SOMETHING has to pay for the expensive Amway hobby, and it sure isn't the few dollars a month that Amway might bring in.

~Dave

Anonymous said...

I'm sure this will get deleted, but Amway does not put down jobs, it gives people an alternative, you all are obviously either a bunch of losers who are dumb to figure out the simplest business or another mlm thinking they are possibly better than Amway.

Honestly, if anyone here is actually legit and spent time in Amway you need to think about what you actually did to earn money, it's not a welfare system it's a business that you judge your own value, you can work as hard you as want or a little as you want, your profits will follow in either direction...

Joecool said...

Anon @3:47, you thought wrong. I do not delete comments, even if they go against my views. Quite different from the Amway propaganda websites that delete negative comments. Amway doesn't put down jobs but the speakers at functions and meetings do.

If Amway is the simplest business, then IBOs must be morons because only a fraction of 1% ever reach platinum, where you just about break even or start to make a small net profit.

It is a welfare system. The diamond collect their "welfare" everytime you buy standing order, or function tickets.

E-Chamber Consulting and Insurance Services Inc. said...

I was in the Amway business from 1991 to 1998 and made approximately $1400 per month during the last 12 months in the business. I quit after the business went to the Internet model because I know that sponsoring people in a "social media" environment is not effective. I've learned that over the last 5 years, Amway has returned to the traditional, people-to-people business model.

To Amway's credit, the personal development training (tapes, CDs, books, events) helped me launch a consultant firm where I have been able to help traditional businesses find more clients.

In my opinion, Amway was not about just products. The training information, to me, was equivalent to studying for a Master of Business Administration (MBA) degree. In fact, in my former corporate job, I had more real world experience, gained from the Amway business, in the personal development area, than most of my corporate peers.

Here's the truth: if you can master dealing with people and their many personalities, you can be successful in just about anything that does not require technical expertise or professional certification.

In closing, people should not look at what they do as a job. What you do, that might last a long time, should be considered a career choice.

I have not kept up to date with what the Amway business is doing, but if you're looking to improve your people skills, Amway is worth checking out. You can't beat the price for the training.

Rick in Sacramento, CA

Anonymous said...

i disagree. :)

Daniel said...

I have shared the same experience you have Rick, I have learned a lot from being with Amway. I also have a way to make about $300 bucks a month as a full time student-athlete. There is no other option for people like me to make money other than in the summer. I have practice and class everyday of the week all school year, so having a chance to simply earn any income during the year is great. And just to clarify, IBO's do not buy products to resell from their house as many try to claim online. Instead you register people who want to try your products from you, and they buy the products like you would on any other online shop. I don't even hawk my crap at people or persuade people to join up and I'm able to make consistent money even while being incredibly busy in school. Use your brain

Anonymous said...

some bullshit...

Anonymous said...

agreed amway does not put jobs down... you guys dont know anything about it

Anonymous said...

ur a doofus

envey said...

amway products are very quality

Anonymous said...

Doing Amway is great.. doing job, working for others also great but why people keep complaining about their job??

Joecool said...

We don't. Amway people criticize jobs.