Monday, September 15, 2014

Amway And Personal Responsibility?

One of the disturbing things I have noticed about Amway IBOs and IBO leaders is how they wlll tell downline to trust them. To trust them as they have already blazed a trail. No need to re-invent the wheel. Just ride the coattails of your upline to success. The system is proven. Many IBOs take this to heart and put forth tremendous effort. Then when they fail, upline will shun them and tell them that the failure is their own. That they are personally responsible for failure.

Now I am not talking about IBOs who sign up and do nothing, or never place an order. I do believe that the fact that many IBOs sign up and do nothing brings concerns about how these IBOs were recruited, but I do not recall ever seeing an IBO do nothing and then complain that Amway was a scam or anything like that.

I have found, however, that many people who are critical of Amway and the systems, put forth much effort, did everything they were told, and did not find the success that upline promoted, or in some cases, guaranteed. My former sponsor was still active, last I heard and has been in Amway for over 15 years. I do not believe he has ever gone beyond platinum, and I know that he was never a Q12 platinum. Some Amway apologists might see being a platinum as a bonus, but when you are hard core sold out to the systems, platinum is a break even or make a small profit business. Factor in that time spent by husband and wife and these folks are breaking even or making a fraction of minumum wage. Is this the dream that will allow you to buy mansions with a cash payment?

What is also disturbing is how people will tout the system as responsible for any success, but hide the vast majority that the system doesn't help. Sure, some will succeed in Amway, but for every success, there are hundreds if not thousands who fail. And if you consider diamond as the benchmark of success, the failures could be in the millions. As I said, some succeed, but very very few in relation to the number who try. Going diamond is probably less common in the US than winning the lottery.

Succeed and the systems and upline take credit, but fail or quit and it is your own responsibility. Are these the kinds of leaders or mentors you want advice from?
I will pass.


Anonymous said...

I can see how holly Chen and some kingpins in Asia can get more people to trust them. Since they are breaking diamonds at a crazy pace over there. But the north american kingpins and diamonds don't ever break any diamonds these days. I'll be honest I put in no effort recruiting. Because back in the 90s I just couldn't bring myself to suck my friends into something which has horrible pricing. Also I didn't trust the system back then and thought it was a money scam. I did force myself to retail to regain my original investment of the expensive kit. Had my upline tell me he sat on Greg Duncan's 10,000 sofa. That's when I stopped trusting my upline and thought he's a crook

Joecool said...

Amway is not yet saturated in Asia but it mostly is in the US. That would explain the new diamonds in Asia and the lack of new diamonds in the US.

Duncan might not be able to afford a $10,000 sofa. He filed for chapter 7 bankruptcy in 2009 or so. He owed money on credit cards and back taxes.