Wednesday, February 24, 2016

Amway's Proven System?

Many uplines and IBOs will talk about their system. More often than not, the various systems such as WWDB or Network 21 will tout themselves as the best, fastest growing, proven, and most profitable. I know that was promoted when I was an IBO and I believe it is still promoted this way. There are many comments on the internet from IBOs and recently former IBOs that indicate that this is true. But let's take a look at these claims.

How does one determine the best? You really can't. The best is an opinion unless there are established criteria on what constitutes the best. Of course, every upline will think their group is the best, but what can factually be derived from that claim? If you are an IBO or prospect of Amway, try asking that question. Based on what do you make the claim of being the "best" group or system? They can say most profitable but unless the diamonds open their books, it is a claim that cannot be verified.

Fastest growing can be proven or disproved. But for the most part, we know that Amway isn't growing by leaps and bounds in North America. In recent years it appears that Amway sales in North America either stagnated or even declined. Amway supporters may cite overall Amway sales going up, but it's reasonable to conclude that the sales have declined based on Amway's own press releases this year. For some odd reason, Amway no longer reports North American sales, but simply lumps everyhing into a global sales figure.

As for any system to be making claims of proven, all these systems have basically done is proven that they are dismal failures. Based on Amway's own figures, we can deduce that less than half of one percent of IBOs ever reach the platinum level. The platinum level is approximately where you might see a small profit or break even. However, if that platinum is CORE. There is some documentation indicating that platinums might lose money at that level. While the study is dated, the expenses associated with being a platinum have gone up significantly since that study (Wisconsin Attorney General) so it can be very possible that platinums continue to see a net loss these days. It's also very visible that there are fewer diamonds in north America today than a dozen years ago or more. Some diamonds have quit and some were terminated. It appears that most new diamonds come from foreign countries where Amway has not yet suffered reputation issues.

Makng claims of fastest growing is also one that can be proven. However, try asking your sponsor or upline for evidence of this claim. Also, is the growth occuring in your area? Are you from the US or Canada? Citing growth in Korea for example, is unlikely to mean anything for the vast majority of IBOs. And even if there is some growth, how does that translate as leverage or an advantage for you? Ask these questions and see what answer you receive, if any.

The system is proven for sure. But it's proven to be a failure. The numbers supplied by Amway clearly back up this claim.


Anonymous said...

Your title is wrong, lack of understanding of the business opportunity.. They are not by Amway, they are by successful IBO's who share their experience on what made them successful and you have to show success before you get to give your talk sharing your experience.

Your naiveness shows about the lack of understanding, business grows anywhere in the world proves the Free Enterprise and people's willingness to have a business of their own.

As for Sales, you need to go to direct selling industry website to learn who is the number 1 direct selling company in the world.

Joecool said...

hey are by successful IBOs. Yes, but they are Amway IBOs selling training on the Amway business. Their training is highly ineffective given the miserably low rate of success of Amway IBOs.

I understand all too well. You are being fooled. You think you have your own business but the reality is you are an unpaid commission only sales person for Amway.

As for who is #1 in direct selling, it matters not because MLM is just a bad idea. I doubt that you've made a net profit from Amway despite your defense of them.

Anonymous said...

The only reason Amway prospers anywhere in the world( and I might add temporarily) is no one has heard yet that it's a soon as the word travels...sales drop

Joecool said...

That's why most of the new diamonds are from foreign countries. Where the name Amway hasn't been completely soured like in the US.

Anonymous said... is accessible globally ... Buddy get yourself educated.

Joecool said...

I'm quite well educated. Thank you. I can properly evaluate a business and a business plan. That's why I'm not in Amway.

Anonymous said...

The Internet is also "accessible globally," you Amway jerk.

That's why even in foreign countries we'll soon see the Amway profit margins begin to collapse. Foreigners aren't stupid. They'll learn what a fraud Amway is in time.

Anonymous said...

When did anyone say it wasn't? You know you can tell how insecure Ambots are by how reactive and defensive they become when you question anything about there fake predictable

Joecool said...

LOL, it is those of us who are educated that avoid Amway because we can properly evaluate Amway as a business and can easily determine that it is a scam.

Qiunan Tang said...

It might not be a good business for you but it is not a scam at all. Any educated business person will tell you Amway is not a scam. It has been studied and used as success business case studies around the world business collage . Here is a example

Joecool said...

The companies that sell tools and functions are a part of Amway and they are a huge scam.