Friday, April 22, 2016

Amway Is Fair?

One of the things my upline always taught was how the business was fair. Everyone starts at zero, we were told. Everyone does start at zero, but it is hardly fair when you break down the compensation and the layers of people between you and your uplines. I will also speak about how the sponsoring is somewhat cloudy as well. Despite the claim that you will be paid if you "do the work", it is not necessarily true. These are catch phrases that upline uses to make it seem fair.

The sponsoring system that Amway uses is a hit or miss. You could have tons of business acumen and insight on running a business, but your sponsor and others upline will always be your upline and will always profit on your efforts - simply because they were there first. In many cases, a sponsor has nothing to offer a downline. They are in no way shape or form able to advise or give sound business advice. But as long as they are in the business, they get to profit from your efforts. Does that sound fair to you?

Also, let's take a new IBO for example. If that new IBO sells and consumes 100 PV, that new IBO will receive a 3% bonus. Amway pays 30+% of their take in bonuses. Thus the new IBO who "did the work" gets 3% and somewhere in the layers of upline, the remaining percentage gets split up among the upline. Some of the upline don't know that the new IBO exists, but they get a portion of the bonus, simply because they were there first. The new IBO has done the work and some of the uplines have done nothing to help this new IBO, but they enjoy a percentage of that IBO's bonus. Does that sound fair?

Tenured upline may also sell business support materials such as voicemail, websites, books, cds, and seminars. None of these materials have been proven to be effective in assisting IBOs in building a business. In fact, some of the biggest crown ambassador types built their Amway businesses before these materials existed. But because they were there first, they now claim to have the expertise on how to build a successful Amway business. Based on some numbers that Amway has provided, we can conclude that about 1 in 400 IBOs ever reach platinum (source: and out of those who reach platinum, less than 1% ever reach diamond. Not much evidence that the system works. Yes, I acknowledge that some people don't follow the system, but out of these ones who do follow the system, the success rate is still miserably low. If the system is so diffcult to follow and succeed, is it fair for IBOs to have to keep paying for a system that will not help them?

All of the above are reasons a new IBO has the deck stacked unfairly against them. Yes, some IBOs can overcome overwhelming challenges and succeed, but they are few and far between. Is this business set up in a fair manner? I say no.


Anonymous said...

What in the nerve would they say that "the business" is fair when you hear stories of downlines being abused and shit-kicked by their uplines who promised that they are their "mentors" in "the business"?

The downlines are worse than the slaves, slaves even though they were abused by their taskmasters, slaves were given a day's wage and bread to eat.

The downlines receive all the abuses and shit-kicking and they are not given a salary and a day's meal.

Anonymous said...

Amway is "fair" in the same way that being thrown as a gladiator into the Roman arena was "fair." If you were a savage and merciless killer, you might survive and even thrive. If you weren't, you were dead meat.

Joecool said...

When it comes down to it, Amway diamonds are ruthless.

Anonymous said...

Too bad there isn't an Amway rank called "zircon." That would be a Diamond who is a complete phony.

But since all Amway Diamonds are phonies, I guess it doesn't matter.

Joecool said...

LOL, good one!

Anonymous said...

I'm sorry you all had a horrible experience with Amway. I wish it was different for you, I really do, because not everyone's experience is the same. Mine, actually, is super positive. I have an upline that teaches me, helps me, and supports me, so I have absolutely no problem with them making money off what my husband and I do.

Joecool said...

So are you actually making a net profit after paying for all your business expenses?