Sunday, January 8, 2017

Amway Is Ageless?

Hi everyone, JoeCool is back from vacation. I took a fabulous 2 week vacation in international locations and had the time of my life. Looking forward to another similar vacation nex year as well. And guess what? I paid for this trip with my J-O-B income and had sufficient time off to take the trip and recover from a little jet lag after. I'll be back a work in a few days but I've been off this blog for a while so I decided to update it.

It seems that no matter how much time passes, or what year it is, Amway hadly changes. What I mean is people (prospects) continue to be deceived by Amway IBOs about the Amway opportunity and about the income potential. Basically, Amway is ageless. If I had gone to sleep in 1996 (ala Rip Can Winkle) and woke up today, I would find that Amway and the Amway business is basically the same. Yeah, you can order online now but the basic premis of the business has not changed. What I mean is that the focus of the IBOs is still on recruiting and trying to get people to see the plan.

I still do not see much emphasis on actually selling Amway products by most IBOs. You know who does the most selling? The upline diamonds who sell IBOs voicemail, cds, seminar tickets, open meeting tickets and other tools that the diamonds profit handsomely from. I still can see that diamonds keep their tool profits on the down low as they don't want the sheep to get wise to the scam. hey think that the diamonds actually make their money from Amway but the truth is that a very significant income is made by diaonds elling tools. Think about it, the mark up on tools is much greater than the markup on Amway products and the tools income in only shared by the higher up Amway distributors, not with the rank and file.

People still quit Amway in hoards and most people quit presumably because the business wasn't "all that" and possibly because the IBOs were losing money because of tools and business expenses. Amway actually works as designed. It extracts money from downline in the form of product and tool purchases and funnels it up the organization (or pyramind) to the higher ups such as the diamonds and above). Whether you agree or not, that's what Amway is designed to do and that's exactly what happens. Even though I quit Amway around 20 years ago, not much appears to have changed. Amway is timeless.

9 comments:

Anonymous said...

Most people realize that they have three choices

1) Do amway and get negative profit/ or just deficit
2) Do nothing and get 0 profit
3) Get a legitimate J.O.B. and actually earn something

If you choose 1, you're either being fooled or a masochist.
However people don't always immediately see because they are distracted by the so-called "business education"

Anonymous said...

Hey Joe,

Can you go more into detail about Robert Kiyosaki. I know you said in previous posts that he's a fake and if people had the secret to success they wouldn't share it. I'd like to hear more about him. I just found it funny because I saw a youtube video "Will Smith on making his kids read Rich Dad Poor Dad".

Nice blog by the way.
Keep up the good work.

Anonymous said...

Also

Was just browsing "Robret Kiyosaki" and saw this

http://thecollegeinvestor.com/4726/ultimate-hypocrite-robert-kiyosaki-companys-bankruptcy/

Joecool said...

Kiyosaki claims to have made his riches and sells his techniques.

But there is to verifiable evidence that he's made any money other than by selling his books and seminars. In fact, AFAIK, he was a struggling author until his book "rich dad poor dad" was promoted by some Amway diamonds. Suddenly he was a best selling author and while he promotes MLM, he's apparently not made money in MLM, except by selling stuff to a captive MLM audience.

I have read reviews that his real estate seminars are scams to sell you more expensive seminars. Even his TV infomercials have a disclaimer of "unique" experience when he shows success testimonials.

Anonymous said...

Kiyosaki is the perfect image of the American con-man, selling far-flung hopes to glassy-eyed dopes.

Tanisha Kruger said...

Well here my question to you that are so sure this is fake!!

Would a man like
John Maxwell back something that is fake due you think someone world wide would risk hes Rep on that!!

I have had the pleasure of meeting him three times at difffent events held by Amyway have had 3 books signed and got to speak with him at least 5 to 10 minutes each time.

And what makes this hype someone said any different then when Google,Apple,Facebook and every other major company does!!

Also another point made but an outsider who already has thier mind made up and isnt truly intrested in learning how
thing really work!!

Talk about family spending and how much they spend on outside things if you take the time to look at what is sold.

They teacher you to use your own stuff first buy from yourself it counts as items sold to help with meeting profit margins to getting paid.

Example have make-up,Vitiams,House
Hold items they have stores like Best Buy Office Max etc you die your regular showing and you het a % back!!

Thier are so many things not spoken about in this dicussion.

Yes ask questions get input die your research and realize this isnt for everyone I peronally have this business as well as two others that have worked great for a mother of two with children with special needs welcome to check out my Linked In for more detial!!

Good Luck

Joecool said...

Tanisha, did you know that John Maxwell gets paid to speak at Amway meetings and he also sells many books at Amway functions. Of course John Maxwell will have nice things to say about Amway and WWDB. But apparently, John Maxwell doesn't think enough of Amway and WWDB to join them.

Anonymous said...

Right on the button, Joe. If Robert Maxwell actually thought that Amway was a good deal, why hasn't he signed up as an IBO?

Use your head, Tanisha, instead of thinking with your glands.

John Doe said...

Tanisha said, "Would a man like
John Maxwell back something that is fake due you think someone world wide would risk hes Rep on that!!"

Tanisha, John Maxwell is an evangelical con man. He uses his "knowledge" of the bible passages to help manipulate them to his advantage. There have been many biblical scholars that have said Maxwell either gets it wrong, or purposely takes advantage to line his pockets. The guy has two degrees from Azusa Pacifica college (Christian college), and they are in Christianity, not business. Would you take business advice from an English professor?

For the record, John Maxwell is a truly evil human being, but that was the nicest way I could put this into reasonable context.

Tanisha said, "Talk about family spending and how much they spend on outside things if you take the time to look at what is sold.

They teacher you to use your own stuff first buy from yourself it counts as items sold to help with meeting profit margins to getting paid.

Example have make-up,Vitiams,House
Hold items they have stores like Best Buy Office Max etc you die your regular showing and you het a % back!!"

Tanisha, you are clearly an uneducated person due to your lack of English ability and were not taught anything about business. Nobody in business, owner or salesperson, gets paid to buy their own stuff. If you consume your own products, you will lose all of your money.

You are describing what is commonly referred to as a rebate. This is not unusual as many businesses have done rebates on their products as an incentive to purchase. They may run a special saying, buy from a certain store and mail in a receipt, then they will mail you a check for $20.00. Amway is exactly the same thing, and you are not buying from yourself, but rather buying from Amway and getting a very lame rebate check. Once you teach enough people to do the same, then your rebate checks get bigger, but the people you teach below you will have less and less opportunity to repeat the process as it makes more competitors and less viable customers. If you can't understand that basic principle, then you deserve to lose all of your money while being a robotic IBO flogging useless overpriced crap.

Tanisha said, "Yes ask questions get input die your research and realize this isnt for everyone I peronally have this business as well as two others that have worked great for a mother of two with children with special needs welcome to check out my Linked In for more detial!!"

When was the last time you actually asked a question without being sarcastic? When was the last time you actually tried thinking for yourself and didn't rely on others to come up with solutions? When was the last time you thought about doing something honest with your life for your two children with special needs? I'm guessing your husband must be a real saint to deal with a piece of work like you as you continue to lose all of his money on stupid "businesses".