Friday, January 8, 2010

Amway - Negative Cashflow?

One of the things I am hearing about right now by Amway supporters is the concept that Amway pays you to shop there. The problem with this statement is that many IBOs see this rebate but do not calculate the fact that you can still have a better bottom line simply by purchasing a product elsewhere. For example, if WalMart started some kind of cash rebate program, would you quit Amway and shop at WalMart?
Then when an Amway supporter is cornered with this information, they will switch gears and start to defend quality versus price. It's all very predictable.
Honest question for IBOs. Why do you use KATE instead of the Amway voicemail system? Amway pays you to shop there, your upline profits from and does not pay you to use KATE.

One of the biggest problems with especially new IBOs is they ignore negative cashflow. And I cannot really blame them. They are ususally sponsored by someone they trust and they are often taught to ignore facts or taught that they are investing in their business, just like a real business, even though when recruited, they are told little or ZERO risk. Thus an IBO who intends to make a profit will generally get set up with a website and some other materials. While the cost may not be exorbitant, these few materials already exceed a new IBO's income unless they actully go out and sell some goods or are able to sponsor downline who sell and buy products. And the more dedicated an IBO is, the greater the chance is that the IBO's negative cashflow will be larger. When you start to add in standing order and functions, the cashflow gets more and more negative and there are many testimonies of massive debts built up by IBOs in a few years or less.

What's ironic is that many IBOs incur these debts at the advice of their upline, or if you will, "mentors". Many uplines will teach IBOs to "never quit". It is my guess that uplines will make blanket statements like never quit without knowing an IBOs circumstance. Just as a statement like you "need" to attend a certain certain function, or you need standing order. No assessment of an IBO's business or personal circumstances. It appears that uplines are simply interested in making a sale for their BSM business. You may ask why should a diamond assess a downline's business before issuing these statements. I ask why should downline call them "mentors". In the meantime these downline suffer negative cashflow from their Amway business. Ironically, some upline teaches that "insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results".


Anonymous said...

Why don't you shut up and focus on your own affairs? You're not part of our business and if you were, you would honestly be interested in improving the business for all. But you aren't hence you run many stupid, bogus blogs where you do nothing more than just feed off the negative and spreading negative further. Shame on you!

Joecool said...

LOL, why don't you shut up and go build your business. You know a business like this needs critics. Do you know what would happen to your body if you could not feel pain?

Did you know that about 11 years ago, uplines swore that nobody made money on tools. It was the internet critics who helped expose the scam.

What many blogs do I run? I only run this one and the other one linked to this one.

I don't see it as negative. It is the TRUTH, but I guess you cannot handle the truth?

mrmaximum said...

Anonymous doth protest too much, just as all Amway apologists. Worry not, it will all make sense once the ingestion of the purple Kool Aid ceases, period.

Anonymous said...


I assure you that I didn't have Kool Aid for the last two months or so. And I'm still jacked! You didn't research properly! Period!

Joecool said...

But you did drink some kool aid? LOL

mrmaximum said...

"I assure you that I didn't have Kool Aid for the last two months or so. And I'm still jacked! You didn't research properly! Period!" are still not the first one to get fired up....and you won't be the last. FYI, there where two other people who had gone on this blog stating that they where going to make it big, one was known as Going Diamond, the other; Going Crown....guess where they are, and it isn't Diamond or Crown.

There reference to Kool Aid is regarding people who can ignore all the obvious signs, and proceed anyway. Like I said, going West looking for a Sunset.

Period, go ahead and try to prove the critics wrong, all you will do is prove us right. BTW, less than 1% manage to do so, which includes the ones who state that 100% who chose to go Diamond.

Some simply have to learn the hard way

Anonymous said...

I've shown the plan cause I was interested. However I couldn't get passed the fact I have to recruit people to build my business... The products are expensive brands that manypeople have NEVER heard of and the $200 start up seems high to a college student like me... These diamonds are diamonds cause of the people they recruit who've recruited people who've recruited and so on and so forth... Sounds like a lot of work to first few the top then try and free MYSELF... -Bright