Friday, September 9, 2011

Losing Money Is Success In Amway?

Looking back at my IBO days, I can now laugh at some of the strange stuff we did and believe it or not, I have reason to believe that my old LOS, WWDB still teaches some of this and some other major groups also teach it. I believe some of these practices were the reason why some people refer to the Amway business as cult or having cult like qualities. If you recognize some of these practices, you might be in an unethical group and you should ask your upline the tough questions and possibly reconsider or reprioritize your involvement in the business.

Submission to upline was one of the things we were told. Our group was told that upline would never purposely lead us astray so we should trust them and never try anything without checking upline. Afterall, upline had experience and probably had all the answers. Some of this checking upline included asking permission to get married, buy a car or a home, or even something as small as purchasing a camera. The upline said maybe someone upline might have advice on how to get a good deal on a camera so no harm in checking upline before making a purchase. It is my guess that upline didn't want your disposable income being spent on anything other than standing orders and functions. Our group was taught to reduce debt, but ironically, upline said it was okay to go deeper in debt if it was to attend a function or to buy more cds.

Late meetings. Our upline was into late meetings, many occuring after midnight. I suppose it was a show of loyalty and dedication to the upline and the system. In reality, it made most people angry at their jobs because they had to wake up early to go to work. For me it made me mad at our upline because the meetings taught us nothing of substance and it just made us tired. Our upline used to talk about time being important but it was never important enough to make him show up on time for his own late night meetings. Another cult like factor - sleep deprivation.

Secrets. Anytime we asked about how much income uplines may have been earning, we were either told it's none of our business or shown a photocopy of a 10 year old bonus check that someone upline may have received. Our proof that the business worked was upline showing off pictures of sports cars and mansions. Of course we now find that some WWDB diamonds had homes foreclosed, and one prominent triple diamond had some dealings in bankruptcy court. Looking back, I suspect that many diamonds have mortgages, which would be nor problem except that these leaders scoffed at the stupidity of having a loan. That diamonds pay cash for everything, including homes. My former sponsor still lives in a run down rented home beause he won't purchase a home unless he's got the cash. My former sponsor is a physician so I find his position on buying a home preposterous. His oldest child, a son probably grew up deprived of his parents because of dedication to the system and the functions.

Losing money is success. Many times, our group was told that losing money was a sign of success. It was success because we were investing in our futures. That the business really is not about money but about friendships. I suppose upline taught this because everyone was losing money so it was nice to hear that success was around the corner, and that we were all nicer people and on our way to success if we just attended more functions and bought more standing orders. People who sold off some of their personal property were edified if they did so to attend a function. Obviously these folks were not advised to run their business within their means. Upline even said that going into debt was okay, but only if the debt was to invest in the business or to buy extra function tickets.

While some of these practices seem bizarre, I believe it is because the upline advice was self serving and meant to channel their downline's dollars into tool purchases. It is the only conclusion I can make. What's your conclusion?


Anonymous said...

once again, you never fail to tell the truth about the amway global opportunity to go broke.

Joecool said...

LOL, you are almost assured of losing money and going broke if you follow the advice of most AMOs.

Anonymous said...

Hey Joecool, paying to do my own homework online, plus requiring a hardcover textbook in class (at a college level), start researching that. The Amway business plan is NOT FOR EVERYONE. Amway looks for leaders and not the average Joe. It is the average Joes that come into this business, fail and then whine about it here. Doctors, Lawyers, Dentists, Engineers, Business Directors, even Airline Pilots are successful in Amway. Plus, there are good up-lines and bad up-lines. Losing money is success? Obviously this is a red flag. Whining about this is pathetic, because of your inability to question him. Any sensible person knows losing money is not success, yet here you are complaining about being brainwashed into lose money. This blog is a comfort to people who know they can not advance further in life, while trying to limit those who can. I do not have any BWW CDs, books, nor tapes. I do not tell my prospects to quit their jobs. I sell to people who can afford Amway products and still have money for a mini vacation(per month).

Joecool said...

"Amway looks for leaders and not the average Joe. It is the average Joes that come into this business, fail and then whine about it here."

Can you kindly explain how you can have only "leaders" in the Amway business?

Anna Banana said...

Too many chiefs and not enough Indians?

Going by Anonymous theory why did the Amway upline bother with people like me? I have never pretended to want to be a leader. I am proof that IBOs will prospect anyone who has a pulse.

Anonymous said...

*finger* to anon @1:38

**proud Amway hater**

Anonymous said...

If it not for everyone how come amway says there is an unlimited market. Does not compute.

Unknown said...

Knowledge is power, so I heard it said. However, when you bash a company that has the best # 1 products I'm health and beauty, it seems that Amway sells it self! That being said, I am taking advantage of every opportunity available to me. Whether it be through testimonies of our diamond peeps, DVDS, CDs and board meetings with your upline.

Joecool said...

If Amway sells itself, why do practically only IBOs buy Amway stuff and not real customers?