Friday, December 30, 2011

Following The Journey Of A WWDB IBO

http://expeditionoftruths.com/tag/wwdb/

I've been following the journal of an IBO who is in the WWDB LOS. Essentially, I believe the dude is hard working and wanting the best for his family. The problem I see is that he has apparently fallen for the deception that was and continues to be taught by WWDB. Pro Amway folks have criticized Joecool because they say my experience is old and outdated. Yet, here it is on the journal of a current WWDB IBO, pretty much verifies that the same material taught in the late 1990's is still taught today. The only difference I see is that the WWDB leaders are not lying about nobody making a cent of profit from tools. Although they have their own spin on that as well.

Ironically, his website says "Sto Pro Veritate", which means "I stand for the truth". I would guess that Shaun believee what his upline says is the truth but his blog is littered with material that is dicey, but because his upline said so, Shaun believes. I was once there myself, but realized the scam after a number of months. Sometimes it's hard to discern because your sponsor or upline is often a friend or family member. They get you to agree on various issues to build a degree of trust and slow up your level of commitment. Shaun is a perfect example of this.

Basically, Shaun's wife got involved and eventually, Shaun also jumped in. The couple went 1000 PV in March 2010 and even posted copies of their checks. Nothing indicating further progress has been posted since. I would assume any new pin level would have been an article that was newsworthy on such a blog. Lately, there has been more mundane material, and Shaun does not allow comments on his blog anymore, which in itself is interesting. Shaun, in 2009, posted that why wouldn't someone want to work hard for 2-3 years and never have to do it again? 2012 is around the corner, about 3 years since he got started. Food for thought.

Some of the interesting things that can be found on the blog:

The couple plans to purchase a home in cash.
Denied that Greg Duncan (One of their mentors) had bankruptcy issues
Amway/WWDB IBOs have a 2% divorce rate compared to 60% for the rest
Will be Double Eagle Rubies making $117K in 2011
Will be job optional in November 2011
Debt Free (True, but sold their home and cashed in 401K to do so)

Here's a recent quote: "We’ve got some pretty big dreams and today the dream of owning an aircraft was at the forefront. Don’t laugh, get your own dream!"

**Now let me say I wish Shaun and his family well. I hope he does succeed and is able to fulfill his goals and dreams, but not exclusively at his downline's expense. What troubles me is how the leadership at WWDB is apparently teaching him the same junk I saw as an IBO and is filling his heart with false hopes and dreams that are unlikely to ever come to fruition. Even the miniscule number of people who do succeedin Amway, do so at the expense of their trusting downline. Seems that Amway accreditation did nothing to alter or shape the teaching of these LOS's. I will continue to follow his progress and hope that he will eventually see through the facade.

8 comments:

Anonymous said...

Your just a lousy dream stealing critic. Nobody loves a critic. We need more people like Shaun who are willing to takes risks to make society great. You keep bashing Amway but offer nothing better. What makes you high and mighty? Who gave you the authority to write these discouraging articles?

Joecool said...

Whose dream have I stolen? Can you clarify?

Can you also explain what risks an IBO takes and how they make our society great?

Me and the crickets are chirping and waiting.

rocket said...

Not to mention he seems to be cheering on the financial misfortune of others.

https://plus.google.com/113796111542951232041/posts

At least he still talks to non-Amway WWDB people who will keep him in check.

This is a sad, sad case study in what Amway Motivational Organizations do to people.

There's nothing anyone can say that will change his mind, he will have to figure it out for himself.

Having said that, there's no excuse this day and age to be so utterly indifferent to obvious realities. I just hope his relationship doesn't suffer too much when the wheels fall off.

And fall off they will. It's simply a matter of time before it becomes clear that Amway isn't your own business, and few people want to get involved.

Last time I checked, real business owners don't pay a Corporation a hundred bucks a year to stay open.

I wish him well too, but not at the expense of others.

rocket said...

By the way, how does being in Amway make society great? Abe Lincoln was a critic of slavery. Nobody liked him? Hmmmmm.

As far as something better, a JOB THAT PAYS MONEY is better than what over 99% of the Amway participants make.

What gives Amway leaders the authority to preach on stage other than your foolishly spent dollars that buy their motorhomes & luxury vacations.

Speaking of which, I must go ensure everything is in order for MY luxury vacation to a 5 star resort in the Caribbean!

Toodles Amway guy!

Joecool said...

The obvious escapes Shaun and others. If WWDB was so great, why did Kosage and Wolgamott leave? If Amway saves marriages, what happened to Kosage, Wolgamott and Danzik?

The uplines teaches people to live below their means and buy their tools and functions, at the same time they show you cars and mansions that they allegedly own.

One of their mentors is so financially savvy that he spent time settling a chapter 7 bankruptcy. Another mentor is so full of integrity that he tells newbies they can make hundreds of thousands of dollars a month.

I suspect Shaun has hit the wall and his business has stagnated around the 1000 PV ;evel. If not, we would see displays of progress on his blog. Sadly, I do not anticipate he will progress much further.

I wonder how many dream nights he'll be attending next month?

Anonymous said...

hey anon@10:25, DIE!

**proud Amway hater**

gonzoskeptic said...

You're right nobody likes a critic, that's why simon cowel on American idol was a huge flop. The only people who don't like critics are those who are afraid of the truth.

Anonymous said...

+1