Thursday, September 20, 2012

All Is All?

One of the things Amway defenders will spout is how tools are optional in the Amway business. While Amway says this, many Amway AMO leaders do not. One of the things I remember hearing was how an IBO "needed" to attend "all" functions. So many IBOs asked the upline questions such as what if by brothers is getting married and the wedding is on the sAme day as a function? Or what if my kid has a soccer game or an event that was scheduled on the same day as a function? The answer from upline was simple. "All means all".

So upline may teach you that God is #1, spouse is #2, kids #3, job #4 and Amway is a distant #5. That's what they said but that isn't what they meant. Anytime there was a conflict with anything, I heard the same thing: "all means all". Meaning that one needed to attend all functions. Amway defenders are quick to jump in and claim this doesn't happen or that they have never heard it, yet I continue to see stories and testimonies indicating that this is still happening in most of not all AMO groups. Sure some upline might be more lenient than others, but in the end, it seems that most uplines want their downlines to attend all functions, regardless of whether an IBO is profitable or not.

I recall even an IBO who had worked hard and was not profitable. He was given the same answer about "all means all". Some upline want you to believe that hard work equals success, but in Amway, hard work doesn't guarantee success. And I believe it is because an Amway IBO is basically a commissioned salesperson amd in that kind of business, hard work can go unrewarded. It is not a matter of working hard, and even working hard and smart can go unrewarded at times. It is because Amway's prodcuts are difficult to sell and Amway IBOs previously unthethical behavior makes it hard to find people who are interested in Amway. Thus even finding someone willing to see the Amway sales plan is a great challenge.

What does your upline say about attending meetings and functions? Do they advise you to pick and choose the ones you can afford or do they tell you that you should attend "all". Do they look at your business profitability before advising you to do they ask you to trust their guidance and leadership? Do they also advise you to buy other tools in the same manner? That is advising you to be on voicemail or standing order without knowing about your business parameters? Do they really want your auccess or their own? Keep in mind that some upline make much more money from tools than from Amway. What say you now?


Anonymous said...

I say toolS etc are a waSte of time and will cost a fortune. This business is about selling a dream and finding people to do rhe ssame thing. Its not easy but you need to keep showing the plan and retail some products. Every year thousands of people sign up so its a matter of getting your share. Not many are able to do this so drop out rates will be high with few people making money but a few will.

Anonymous said...

Yeah, all means all, there is nothing called 99% commitment it is either there or not there! So you will be a hero if you compromise your wife's illness to a function! Amway is supposedly last thing in the priority list but at the end of it is the begining of your list.

Anonymous said...

Hold your horses now Anonymous - "This business is about selling a dream and finding people to do the same thing"???? Then it's not a real business, is it? Certainly this what WWDB promotes as "the business", but, when you think about it, what an UTTER crock - are we talking business or a secret society for wanna-be motivational gurus? Wait, don't answer that...

Disgusted at having wasted copious amounts of my time, treasure, and talents with WWDB,


Anonymous said...

Hi Daniel

cant argue with you but as I said it is about selling a dream I think All the rest is just talk . So I feel people need to realise what it is and then decide if it is for them. All the guys who made it realised this and went and did it. I feel sorry for those who think it is about retailing products and giving others a business opportunity and worst still spending money on tools thinking they will find the magic wand

Anonymous said...


"Selling the dream" is euphemistic. What "the dream" is, is a lie. "The system" is predicated on fraud. So, lying and outright fraud on the level of cable television "christian" preachers is what "people need to realize" it is, and "decide it is for them"? This is what "the guys who made it" are all about? Gag me. Sorry, but your conclusions about Amway "systems" in this regard ultimately just don't hold any water. You should feel sorry for every "big pin" in WWDB, because they are living a lie. The real "winners" are the ones who DID think it was about retailing business products and giving others a business opportunity.


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