Friday, February 15, 2013

Amway Complaints?

Over the years, I have seen literally hundreds (if not more) blogs and testimonials about Amway. Most of them decry the pitfalls of being an Amway IBO. Most of the complaints cite the fact that Amway in general has higher prices than comparable retailers and the fact that the system consisting of voicemail, books, cds and seminars ate up any profits the IBO may have made and resulted in net losses for most. One particular Amway apologist bemoans the fact that the internet is full of bad testomonials about Amway. The reason why there are so many negative testimonials about Amway is because over the years, thousands, possibly millions either had a bad experience for the reasons I cited above, or personally know of someone who had a bad experience in Amway.

Amway defenders will often cite the fact that many IBOs sign up and "do nothing" as their defense to this. But I will easily point out that I haven't seen anyone say they signed up, failed to do anything or order products, quit and started blogging about a bad experience in Amway. These defenders will also compare Amway to the gym where people sign up and "do nothing". Whether true or not, I also do not see people who sign up and "do nothing" complain about not receiving health benefits by simply signing up for the gym. It is a very weak defense. Conversely, I have seen numerous accounts of folks like myself who did put in effort, some for many years, who did what upline advised and did not see the financial rewards that is promoted in "the plan".

Amway defenders will then try to justify themselves, saying that the better business bureau (BBB) receives few formal complaints about Amway. I will agree with this. Many IBOs never bother to file formal complaints to the BBB or to Amway because in many, probably most cases. The person who quits and may have had a bad experience, was sponsored into the business like by a friend or family member of the IBO. Many will simply leave and forget the episode and chalk it up to a learning experience in life. Some will complain, but really have to no venue to voice their remorse about joining. Some of us have found the internet to be quite effective in sharing our experiences and our opinions on why the business did not work. This is what one Amway defender calls the "internet war". What I have pointed out is that critics most often simply point out what the IBOs themselves have done. In many cases, the IBO is his own worst enemy. Afterall, critics didn't deny Amway and Quixtar had a connection, nor did critics make up claims about perfect water, etc. In most cases. bad IBO behavior contributes to bad Amway experiences.

It would appear that most of the problems has a root in the AMO systems, such as WWDB, BWW, LTD, or N21. Now, not all upline leaders are unethical, but it appears that many are, and new IBOs have no way to identify the good from the bad. It also appears that some of these upline leaders will issue bad avice. Advice that is detrimental to the IBOs, but financially beneficial to themselves, such as telling IBOs to never miss a function, or to buy more cds, regardless of any IBO's profitability. In many cases, these unethical uplines do not care about IBO success. Their goal is just to move as many support materials as possible, so they can fund their "diamond" lifestyle. Sadly, it is also apparent that the diamond lifestyle may be a facade in many cases. An illusion of wealth portrayed as a recruiting tool.

If you recognize some of these warning signs, ask tough questions of your potential sponsor and visit this or some of the blogs linked to this one for more information.


Anonymous said...

I try to figure how how you can call this a good business opportunity. 99% dont make anything. So lets take someone who does 2 examples. Yaeger is supposed to be highest earner. Something like 5 or 6 million annualy. Apparently half amway sales are in his group. 5 billion sales. Now how can his return on sales be attrative. Take jim dornan. Earns say 2-million a year. At one stage he said 30000 people were joining his group monthly. How can so much recruiting give him such a low return. So if thats what the best can do what level of income can the ordinary guy achieve. Basically impossible.

Joecool said...

Yes but these folks make tons of money selling standing orders, books and function tickets. That's where the real money is made.

Laura said...

Yes, I agree with Joecool, I was in Quixtar (04/07) and I felt bad everytime I was selling products at a high price. You have to be a cold-blooded person to lie to others about the "opportunity" and steal money from them. But remember what goes around comes around.

Joecool said...

Hi Laura,

You are right. The products are costly. They upline teaches you you to justify the price with concentration, quality, etc, but in the end, people will buy where it's cheaper. The scary and sad thing is that some of these leaders have beep hosing their downline for all these years and not once have they been held accountable.