Thursday, January 16, 2014

Amway WWDB Lies?

Joecool was an IBO in WWDB back in the late 1990's. I got into the business because a close friend had gotten in and went direct. He told me it was "easy" and that he could guide me and mentor me to do the same thing. I didn't really know too much about Amway but I trusted my friend and believed he could lead me to the riches he talked about. I had a bad experience with Amway prior to that where I was invited to a cocktail party/beer bust only to find out it was a board plan. It kind of pissed me off and left a bad taste in my mouth.

But my friend was a direct and I cound use his experience to do the same. It sounded like a good deal on the surface. I saw "the plan" and decided to sign up. I signed up and went all in. Based on my sponsor's advice, I got on standing order and book of the month club. I also dedicated myself to attending the functions. I didn't realize how much these functions would cost but it was supposed to be worth it. Afterall, nobody succeeded wuthout tools (a lie). My sponsor told me that nobody succeeded without tools and that Greg Duncan, a multi millionaire, said that tools are vital but you can try to succeed without them. (Mr Duncan was bankrupt in 2009 or so). Being a newbie, how could you not follow that advice?

At the functions, I was also told that WWDB was a non profit organization (a lie) and that profits were used to make future functions cheaper (a lie). In fact, some of the WWDB leaders stood on stage and proclaimed that NOBODY MADE MONEY ON TOOLS AND FUNCTIONS (a big lie). Eventually, WWDB leaders admitted they made money on tools but were never held accuntable for their lies and they never really explained how you qualify and how much you earn from tools.

Some WWDB leaders spoke and taught how long you could skip your mortgage before foreclosure, all so you could attend that next function. They were so nice to even teach how long the electric company might allow you to skip paying before you got cut off. They even recommened you quit your job if you could not get time of to attend a function. They said you could just get another job.

They also LIED and said that WWDB IBO's had a 2% divorce rate as compared to 50% for the rest of the country. Talk about bullshit. The WWDB diamonds alone had a greater that 2% divorce rate, not to mention thst npbody that I know of is actualy tracking divorce among WWDB IBO's. Nobody really cares but when WWDB leader LIE and make these claims, nobody questions them.

I wonder if these charlatans even own the mansions, cars and jetskis they show off on slideshows at the functions where they pretend to be financailly free with money to spare? Ever wonder why these diamonds never "walk away" from their business? Maybe they can't afford to?

7 comments:

Anonymous said...

Hi Joecool,

I feel sorry you had such an experience. I know that many people had similar.
Creating such tools is very harmful to downline and the company and in my opinion it's a scam.

The idea is that upline helps downline to succeed. Then teach them how to duplicate and help others.
The system should be super easy to follow and duplicable. It can't be super long as it's ineffective and even harmful to everybody. People waste time and money instead of making money.


Selling tools is OK but not to your downline. It just doesn't make sense. Upline should do everything to help. Tools for the downline should be for free or to cover the cost only.

I think you do a great job exposing the tool scam.
I like your posts and I'm talking as an ABO from UK.

Regards
Kris (C1REX)

Anonymous said...

Hi Joecool,

I'm in MLM but really like your posts.
I agree that selling tools and charging downline for almost anything is a scam.

We disagree about MLM business model but I agree that there is lots of very unethical people in the industry.

I believe that MLM is about helping each other. You need to help others to make money if you want to earn money. If leaders charge downline for tools then it's harmful for everybody. Even for the leaders as they build very unstable structure of distrust.

Regards
Kris (C1REX)

Anonymous said...

Hi, I think I've sent two comments by mistake :)
Can you just pick 1, please?

Thanks
Kris

Joecool said...

Thanks, I enjoy talking with you also. I like you candid and honest reponses. Keep visiting! Cheers!

Anonymous said...

Hi Kris! If I recall correctly, Joe, has written that the one main reason he joined Amway was to make "money", not to be a better person/help others etc. Now, this is the sole reason after 4 years I gave my husband an ultimatum - if he didn't stop MLM I was leaving him. He chose to leave MLM as I was more important. MLM is a time & money waster - there's plenty of opportunities out in the World to run a business/make money - in my view MLM isn't one of them. I'm writing, as, I hope one day you may see a better way to enrich your life than Amway. Best wishes; Lady G!

Anonymous said...

Hi Lady G,

I don't have much choice. I will be a father in May and a waiter money may not be enough.
My girlfriend supports me on this decision 100%.
We believe that we can do it. And even few hundred GBP can help us a lot.

Regards
Kris

Anonymous said...

Thanks for your reply, Kris! Congrats to you & your partner with a new baby on the way - exciting time for you both! Take care!...Cheers; Lady G!