Friday, October 24, 2014

Only Amway Folks Are "Winners"?

One of the things that my upline taught, and I believe is still taught today in various groups is that winners join Amway and losers do not. Or that you were a winner because you were doing something to better your financial future and those who didn't were losers. or broke minded. Of course the upline who said this had no knowledge about those who were not in Amway. Some of them may already have been financially sound or may have been doing something to better their financial future. I'm not sure why these uplines, who promote "positive", had to resort to calling people losers simpy because they did not agree that Amway was the greatest thing since sliced bread.

In many games or sporting events, there will be someone or a team that wins the game and someone or a team that loses the game. Losing a game doesn't make you a loser and certainly, a team that wins the game would not say the losing team were losers. Can you imagine a pro football team's coach taking the podium after a game and saying his team won because the other team was a bunch or broke minded gutless losers? That would never happen, yet we see that frequently in the Amway/IBO world. The owner of Amway, Rich DeVos had once said in a recorded message that just because people do not agree with you (paraphrased) about Amway, does not make them losers and that IBOs should not call people losers.

In all of this, people's jobs are also criticized. That a job stand for "just over broke" or "jackass of the boss" and other blurbs. Many IBO's goals and dreams consist of ditching their job so they can sleep all day and live a life of luxury. Ironically, it is most IBO's jobs that continue to produce income so they can pay their bills and feed their family. It is also an IBO's job that funds their Amway and AMO expenses such as product purchases and functions and voicemail, etc. Without having a job, most people could not even join Amway or pay for any tools. Sadly, most IBOs won't make any money in Amway either, and will have to continue to work at their jobs. I do not believe that someone earning an honest living working a job is a loser. Ironically, the folks calling people losers are often not even netting a profit from their Amway business!

Yes, in this business or the sports world, there will be winners and there will be losers. The question is whether you are the one who is allowed to be the judge of who is and who isn't. I would also suggest that IBOs are completely shutting down potential future business by their behavior. What if I went to a store to purchase something but the item was not available on that particular day, so I don't purchase anything and leave. As I leave, the store owner says I am a loser for not buying something there. Will I go back? Very unlikely. If an IBO truly sees themselves as a store owner, all prospects should be seen as potential business, whether future or present. If your upline tells you that people not interested are losers, you should hand him a mirror.


Anonymous said...

Joe, same with the Amway Ibo's leaving the system. They should be professional enough to wish them luck and none of this only losers quit comments. Imagine if all employers where like this.

RachelC said...

Trying to find a job without having a job is just at difficult. Hmmm, want to work for the private sector? You better have money to get that new suit/dress, you need carfare/gas money, have good resume paper, a computer, printer with ink. My point is you need money to get anywhere. And if you don't have it one will either: Ask friends and family for a loan or get on unemployment. You don't see a scam there?

Joecool said...

Yes, and can you imagine going to a store and they call you a loser if you leave without buying something?

Joecool said...

A job isn't a scam. That's Amway teaching. A job is something you apply for and agree to a wage or salary before you work. In Amway - you are recruited and taught sill things like a job being a scam.

ExAmbot said...

RachelC, That's a lot of hurdles you have espoused there - perfect mentality to be looser in life.

Anywho, you don't pay your employer to work there nor are you required to make monthly quota purchases before you get paid (let that sink in) Yeah I know I know what you are thinking, I know what you have bee told - that in Amway you own your own business. Amway is a hyped buying club. To transact with Amway they ask you for your membership number. They don't ask you for your business incorporation certificate. They may say it's your business all they want but all you have is a membership number which is revocable at their pleasure. Amway is in business (of selling to you, it's member) and you are in it's membership (your participation is via a member number is to buy from them and to recruit others to get a ta-da! a member number and to repeat).

Joecool said...

Good comparison. Amway is actually run as a illegal pyramid buying club by certain leaders. If you hear primarily "buy from yourself", it's a scam because then you can only make real money by endless recruiting.