Sunday, July 25, 2021

Climbing A Pyramid?

 Let me start out by saying that Amway is a very likely a perfectly legal company, and therefore I am not saying or implying that Amway is illegal. But I believe however, that the way Amway businesses are run, are like pyramids. In most groups, you will have the lowest level IBOs efforts and tool purchases being responsible for the upline bonuses and tools income. Many many IBOs are fooled into thinking that the ability to surpass your upline or that you don't get paid to recruit downline makes this a good deal. This doesn't change the fact that the vast majority of IBOs lose money. The lottery is legal in most states but I'd say it's not a good investment for your money.

Unless you have a very very rare group where actual product sales to non IBOs are sufficient to cover the costs of running your business, functions and all, then it is true that the lower level IBO's jobs are likely the source of income for the uplines. How many groups are like that? None that I have ever seen or know of. In fact, how often do IBOs even sell enough products to cover their expenses for even one month out of the year? The groups that teach "buy from yourself" end up doing the most financial damage to their groups because the downline's expenses are then covered exclusively from the downlines jobs, bank accounts, or drive the downline into debt.

I've seen and discussed group structures in forums many times and I can only conclude that tool sales wipe out what little profits/bonuses some of the downlines might receive. Only when an IBO is able to sponsor enough downline to absorb the losses for them will they finally break even or make a little profit. I would guess that the 4000 PV level or platinum is where a dedicated CORE IBO would just about break even and possibly start to make a real profit. But if you are hard core dedicated, you can still lose money at these levels. We also know that most platinum groups have 100 or more IBOs in order to generate 7500 PV. Thus we can also conclude that less than 1% of IBOs make a net profit. The only way IBOs can earn a net profit at a lower level is to avoid purchasing tools and to avoid paying for functions. Those who get involved in a system such as WWDB or N21 almost guarantee that they will have a net loss because of the expenses associated with these systems.

Sure, my job may have a pyramid structure with the CEO making the most money. But the difference is that in a company, even the lowest paid employee still receives a paycheck and has money at the end of the month. The same claim cannot be made by IBOs. For these reasons, I believe Amway to be a legal pyramid, where money flows from downline to the upline. IBOs and information seekers are free to participate, but I challenge them to sit down and really analyze their ability to make a net profit. In most cases, the analysis won't be favorable. If you are in the US in particular, you may have great difficulty in even being able to discuss "Amway" without getting strange looks your way from others. Do you have to shy away from using the name Amway? Do you have to use the curiosity approach? If you do, ask yourself why. The answer is obvious.

2 comments:

Anonymous said...

There is only one goal for WWDB, BWW, Network 21, LTD or any other other Amway subsystems. And the goal is this: MAKE A STEADY PROFIT BY SELLING TOOLS TO IBOs.

Nothing else. They don't give a flying fuck about the sale of Amway products to the general public, or about the profits of IBOs, or about helping IBOs up the ladder. These things are meaningless to the subsystems, which only make money from the sale of tools and fees and function tickets, and from the forced monthly purchase (PV) of a fixed number of Amway products by the IBOs.

Amway Corporation in Michigan makes its money from the sale of Amway products to the subsystems below it (which are independent companies that Amway does not control). Once the products are bought and shipped out, Amway doesn't give a damn what happens to them -- whether they are self-consumed by IBOs or thrown away or put in storage. It makes no difference to the creeps in Ada, Michigan. They've made their money.

But the subsystems have to do more than just distribute Amway goods to IBOs. They have to make money in an independent manner. That's the REAL reason for all the "tools" (CDs, tapes, books) and for all the meeting fees and functions and obsolete voicemail systems. THAT'S WHERE WWDB AND ALL THE OTHE LITTLE RACKETS MAKE THEIR MONEY.

Ask any big-pin asshole in WWDB or the other subsystems about "selling Amway products." He'll laugh in your face. If he's honest, he'll just tell you that the money in Amway is in "The Plan." And that just means getting a down-line of stupid people to send you cash every month.

Anonymous said...

My Upline Emerald once told me, "DON'T COUNT COSTS!" Now show me a business that doesn't count costs and I will show you a failed business.

This by the way came from an Emerald in URA.