Thursday, July 29, 2021

The Amway/WWDB "Eagle" Scam?

 Eagle Parameters:

Signed Counsel Sheet to Upline Diamond
300 PV personal use/retail for couples, 200 PV personal use/retail for singles
6-5-3 (PB/SO/MF) - Explained below
6 legs at 100 PV or higher
5 legs on standing order
3 legs attending major functions

What is Eagle? Basically, Eagle is a made up goal. I believe it was originally made up by WWDB. In fact, I think Eagle was around when I was an IBO back about 12-13 years ago. The reason why I say it is a “made up goal” is because it is. It was not a part of the Amway sales and marketing plan. You receive ZERO additional compensation from Amway for achieving the designated level of Eagle, aside from your volume rebate. In a previous post (recently), I broke down the numbers, giving the IBOs the benefit of the doubt in sales, and the only conclusion I could arrive it was that most Eagles must be losing money.

The Amway sales and marketing plan, as shown in many groups, assume that an IBO will move 100 PV in volume, though a combination of personal use and selling of products to family, friends and customers. To be an Eagle, you are expected to move 300/200 PV (Couples/singles) in personal volume. In many, and probably most cases, an IBO typically will consume most of that 100 PV by him or herself. That means the Eagle program artificially inflates the need for Amway products. If you disagree, name one former Eagle (and I am one) who consumes Amway products to the tune of 300/200 PV per month. *crickets chirping*

I believe the Eagle program was simply the brainchild of some LOS leader who wanted to create some kind of incentive to prove an IBO’s loyalty to upline and to secure a certain level of tool purchases from downline. If you do the math, and consider that fact that IBOs on standing order and attending functions are somewhat serious business builders, then every individual in the Eagle program is likely to be losing money. The person designated as “Eagle” may be duped into thinking they have a net business profit, but when you factor in the extra 200/100 PV that you are expected to move, you are losing money, possibly lots of money, unless you are selling that extra 200 PV. If not, you are simply absorbing an extra $300 to $600 worth of products that you probably do not need, If Eagle was truly something worth attaining, wouldn’t it be promoted by Amway and given some kind of financial incentive?

As an IBO, you are MUCH better off simply by moving your 100 PV with a combination of personal use, and selling to friends, family, and most importantly, retail customers. In fact, someone simply selling 200/100 PV in products at full suggested retail price is likely to be better off than someone who is at 1000 PV with an Eagle structure, but self consuming the majority of the 300/200 PV personal circle that is in the Eagle parameters. I challenge anyone to show how a group can be better off financially by maintaining an Eagle structure. *crickets chirping*.

1 comment:

Anonymous said...

Same thing with Arrow in URA. And their standard...oh wait, "recommendation" (because they've been told by Amway that they can't use the term, "standard") is 300PV by the 5th of the month and that's for everyone; not just couples. Now, I think just 300PV is good enough to satisfy Arrow no matter when their orders go through. This is why they push Ditto so hard for the 1st of the month so Upline can have their Downline PV locked in.

You have to have 12 IBOs doing 300PV and three legs coming to major functions. At least that's what I think it was when I was involved. If you have 12 IBOs total with a 4-4-4, then that's an easy $1,080 at least from every immediate Upline Arrow IBO at each function via ticket sales. Four major functions a year and that's $4,320 to the AMO without breaking a sweat except for putting on a dinner and giving Arrow qualifiers a $1.00 Arrow from Hobby Lobby (but people are supposed to think of the significance as that means you're a "business owner"). Arrows also have to waste more time doing other stuff (and no it's not "serving" as they make it sound). More and more "meetings" are more like it.

But back to the topic of PV. Don't fall for it folks. I'm telling you. Some people like bills to come out at a certain time of the month and if you don't "play ball" and have $1,000 or so in products you won't use being purchased on the 1st (Upline will freak if you're delayed by even a day), then Upline will harass you and think you are "uncoachable."