Thursday, July 21, 2016

Opposing Views Of Amway?

One of the things I find curious and humorous at the same time is how people who defend Amway often will not allow opposing viewpoints on their Amway propaganda blogs and forums. They will post an article and allow no comments or will not allow comments unless their are positive and paint a rosy picture about Amway. Amway's biggest defender IBOFightback, banned me from his truth about amway blog/forum for no reason. In fact I posted only two comments there in years and both were respectful and truthful, yet he felt my presence needed to be excluded from his blog perhaps because the truth itself is negative about Amway. I suppose though, that David Steadson's (IBOFB) lack of credibility (in my book) makes the banning a minor issue. His website is filled with pro Amway folks who back up Amway, even bad practices at times. I guess when you see the world through rose colored glasses. you don't see the reality.

I also had an exchange not too long ago with an IBO via email. He also runs a pro Amway blog but hasn't been active recently. He doesn't allow comments on his blog unless they praise Amway. I just don't understand why the need to put spin on the truth. It is a fact that the average Amway IBO earns very little and that most IBOs make little or nothing. Many who participate in the training sessions end up losing money. Those are tidbits that match up with my experience. It is usually former IBOs who can verify this claim. Seems that current IBOs do not admit they are losing money. As an IBO, I was taught "fake it till you make it". That suggests that you appear successful until you actually go diamond or whatever. In the end, a pig with lipstick on it is still a pig.

Joecool allows opposing views on this blog. Even some comments that are critical of me are allowed. I even had some (I presume) IBOs who left threats on this blog. I suspect that one or some of them also sent me threats via email. Still, I allow most comments on here. I do not allow racist or extremely hateful comments, or comments with spam. I have nothing to hide when it comes to my views on Amway. So what do Amway apologists and IBOs have to hide? Would it be damaging to have the truth on your blog or forum? Is the internet already inundated with negative Amway information and comments?

I believe Amway is partly to blame. The AMOs (Amway Motivational Organiztions) such as Network 21, WWDB or BWW are the ones who say and do unethical things. Amway is the only entity who can take action against these groups but it appears that substantial action is lacking and therefore, these groups continue to teach bad business practices which filter down to many IBOs and contributes to Amway having a bad reputation. I guess Amway is sleeping in the bed they made. Until some bad practices are stopped or corrected, there will continue to be people who had a bad experience in Amway. It is what it is.


Anonymous said...

David Steadson (IBO Fart-Back) has absolutely no interest in an honest debate. He's simply a paid publicist and propagandist for Amway and other MLMs. The title of his now moribund blog ("The Truth About Amway") is straight out of George Orwell. Steadson writing "the truth" about Amway? Gimme a break. You might as well have Dr. Josef Goebbels writing a blog called "The Truth About Nazi Germany."

As for the other guy who wrote to you, here's the basic fact: a pro-Amway blog, by definition, CANNOT have any material critical or questioning about Amway. Amway, as a peculiar culture and a mental state, simply does not allow anything "negative" to be said about it. Anything negative about Amway is ipso facto a lie. So you can't expect a pro-Amway blog to contain even the slightest questioning or critique of Amway or its business practices.

Defenders of Amway will say "That's true in every business! You put your best face before the public!"

Sure, OK. But don't then pretend that your blog is anything except an advertisement for your company. Pro-Amway bloggers are nothing but desperate shills trying to counteract the heavy and potent criticism of Amway that now floods the internet. If they were really hard-working Amway IBOs, would they be bothering to write a blog? Shouldn't they be spending their time drawing circles, or attending night owls?

Joecool said...

Great comment. Yes, I agree with you regarding Steadson. He is sneaky but if you know what to look for, you can recognize his deceit. He also cherry picks off topic things. For example, when defending Amway, he may cite a "euromonitor report" or some obscure award that Amway receive, or he may cite some college professor nobody's heard of to lend credibility to his argument.

The recent Hebalife FTC settlement was a kick in the nuts to steadson because the FTC is not requiring actual sales to actual customers in order for MLM to be legit. Steadson had argued that "end users" can be distributors and the FTC has now stated that they cannot be end users when calculating bonus because without real customers, the scheme cannot be profitable and there would be no demonstration that the MLM product has any intrinsic value.

Jerry D. said...

Joe, you wrote in tne above comment: "The recent Hebalife FTC settlement was a kick in the nuts to steadson because the FTC is not requiring actual sales to actual customers in order for MLM to be legit." Did you mean "..the FTC is now requiring"? Otherwise, I'm confused. Thanks.

Joecool said...

Sorry Jerry, I meant the FTC is "NOW" requiring sales to actual customers. LOL

Jerry D. said...

That's ok, Joe. Feel free, ifyou prefer, to repost a corrected version of your original comment and then delete the old one, as well as my comment, so no one is confused, because you made a very important point. Thanks!