Tuesday, August 23, 2016

Amway Upline Conmen?

The really insidious part about some of the LOS leaders, such as the ones I had in WWDB, is that they apparently are cutthroat ruthless businessmen with nice suits, and disguised as your mentors and friends. They get you to trust them, and they will tell you that they have your best interest at heart, or that they would never purposely lead you astray. On the surface, you may think this is true, but look at their actions and you can easily discern that some of these uplines are absolutely ruthless businessmen who would take every cent from you if they could. I was in WWDB and I have good reasons to believe that they are still doing this, based on a WWDB IBO blog. On this blog, I see all the same teachings today, that I heard as an IBO and some of the same claims such as buying homes in cash. It's scary.

As an IBO, the diamonds would tell you to never miss a function, ever. The only good reason for missing a function was for your own funeral. I recall some crossline IBOs rearranging pre-planned anniverssary parties, weddings, and other special family events in the name of being core and attending all functions. Some IBOs actually did quit their jobs to attend functions and they very well may have done so because some uplines taught this. IBOs were also encouraged and told to go into debt to attend a function. This was okay because it was an investment into your business.

Our group was also strongly encouraged to buy extra cds every week. To be core, you needed to listen to a cd each day and you cannot listen to the same one each day right? Couples were told to buy their own seperate standing orders. Brad Duncen even had a true north tape (cd) that said sponsors were to eat the standing orders for downlines who quit because it was too much trouble to call upline who calls upline who calls upline to cancel a standing order. Oddly enough, they didn't mind upline calling upline calling upline to add a standing order.

In the end, I was lucky enough to have been progressing up the pin ranks so my losses were not that devastating. I ended up losing in my early months of the business but mostly broke even when I was at 4000 PV. Sadly though, my crossline did not fare so well. I know of one couple who declared bankruptcy. I don't know how much their WWDB involvement contributed to bankruptcy, but I am certain it was a major factor and I know of two couples who had homes foreclosed, and I believe that their allegiance to WWDB was a factor in those foreclosures. But I guess hey, two WWDB diamonds had homes foreclosed so maybe they were duplicating?

Do not be fooled. The diamonds may have a nice smile and a nice suit, but they are ruthless businessmen who will take your last dime if you allow them to.


Anonymous said...

All the little Amway subsystems for "Tools" are corrupt rip-offs, but WWDB (World Wide Douche Bags) is probably the worst.

The utter cynicism and venality of the higher-ups in WWDB defy belief. One of my spies in the organization tells stories that make one's hair stand on end. Everything in the subsystem is designed to bleed money out of down-line steadily, continuously, and unendingly. Anyone who tries to quit the system is subjected to ferocious and intense psychological pressure, and even physical threats. And the big pins in the organization are like Mafia dons.

Joecool said...

Amway groups have been compared to the mafia. The book "Merchants of Deception" tells a chilling tale of how some people would threaten others who opposed Amway. There was undying loyalty to the leader to a point where it was downright scary.

WWDB exists to profit from selling cds, books, voicemail and seminars to the IBOs. That's with no regard to an IBO's profitability.

I sat in functions where people were told to skip making their house or utility payments or to quit their jobs if that's what it took to attend the next function. Unbelievable.

Anonymous said...

Quit your job to attend one of those stupid Amway "functions"? That's insane.

Imagine giving up remunerative work in order to listen to some asshole Diamond tell you how rich he is, and to watch him strut across the stage with his Barbie-doll wife. It would be different if you actually learned anything at a "function." But you never do! It's just a glorified pep-talk.

Hotel charges, travel expenses, meal checks, incidental outlays... these stupid Amway "functions" can cost you an arm and a leg. And the WWDB crooks expect you to QUIT YOUR JOB in order to come to one of them?

If you are stupid enough to fall for crap like that, maybe you deserve to get ripped off by Amway.