Wednesday, May 29, 2019

The 2-5 Year Myth?

One of the things I heard, and is still promoted is the concept of a 2-5 year plan to financial freedom. As a prospect, 2-5 years of hard work in your spare time sounds reasonable. After all, anyone can work an extra 12 hours a week for a couple of years with that kind of reward awaiting you at the end. The sad reality is that you are likely to suffer 2-5 years of financial losses without getting any closer to financial freedom.

When Amway morphed into Quixtar, a very relevant question was how many diamonds were "quixtar only", meaning they signed up in 1999 when quixtar was implemented and then became diamonds in the advertised 2-5 years. As far as I know, there were very few (if any) new diamonds. The new diamonds that were named all seemingly came from other countries, not the US or Canada. Even now, my former LOS (WWDB) is touting "double eagle rubies" which is not a recognized achievement by Amway (as far as I know), and there is no assurance that achieving such a level makes an IBO profitable. In fact, the eagle program run by WWDB is only measuring tool parameters which is great for upline but not necessarily for the IBOs.

Even today, I do not see a steady stream of new diamonds emerging from Amway. If the 2-5 year plan actually worked, there would be new diamonds constantly emerging. Instead, my former LOS (WWDB), actually has fewer diamonds now than back in my IBO days. And of those diamonds who remain, some of them had homes foreclosed and it also appears that at least a few of them ran into some financial difficulties. Makes me wonder what a diamond's finances actually look like. I suspect many of them live in debt, especially if they flaunt the "diamond lifestyle", which is probably not sustainable on diamond income as reported by Amway.

So while it might be possible to achieve diamond in 2-5 years (some have done it), but tens of millions (or more) have tried. It is much more likely that you will win the lottery (provided you have a ticket) than it is likely that you will join Amway and go diamond. It is also unlikely that people in the US and Canada who join will go diamond in the advertised 2-5 years. The 2-5 year plan is not promoted by Amway, but by the LOS leaders. I believe it is a hoax and the numbers back up my claim. You are much more likely to be better off working part time for 2-5 years and saving and investing for your future. If not, you will end up with 2-5 years of losing money on functions and standing orders.

As many Amway leaders will state: Look at the fruit on the tree. In the US and Canada, the trees are bare.


Anonymous said...

Does Amway publish an official list of those persons who have achieved Diamond status, country by country? And does the list also mention if persons on the list have fallen out of qualification?

If they don't publish such a list, you can be pretty sure that something's wrong.

Experienced Emerald said...

This is a great post. It is so true. I was at Achievers in 1998 when they announced the Quixtar name for 9/1/99. Many of us danced and celebrated with a band playing and it was going to be the greatest thing ever. In August of 1999, we had hundreds of people sign up to be IBOs to get in on the "initial Rush" of Quixtar. We were told that this new online business was going to create faster growth, more pins, more success and more momentum than ever before. As it turned out, the 2-5 year plan turned into a never plan. There was so much less growth after Quixtar than ever before. Bottom line is the Amway reputation is bad and has always been bad. The 2-5 year plan became very hard to promote after 5 years in business and not being a diamond. Any honest, non brainwashed person would see that. I built the business hard for 8 years to get 3 legs over. I can name many IBOs who are today edified by their upline as leaders and barely run 2000PV. One example is a couple who registered in 1994 went Ruby in 1999. Today their business 19 years later is at 2500. I know this to be true because I am friends with their sponsor and they see the volume monthly. I feel sorry for the downline of this fake "Ruby" because they have no chance of succeeding if they follow his example. The more of this phony success that is edified through the Amway organization, the more people go into debt to buy the materials that teach them nothing. They buy them because they want the same success the upline has. Most of the success upline in Amway is before Quixtar. Certainly not a 2-5 year plan. In 1994 my Amway 1099 showed over $79,000.00
in income. In 2003, 9 years later we made less than half of that. I worked the business hard, I drove the miles, I had the group and it still was smaller after 14 years than it was after 5 years. The business is outdated, its better in foreign countries today than in the USA and it is time for people to wake up and see the extreme amount being spent vs coming in. 2-5 years is too long to see results. If you are not making measurable progress in reasonable time. Get out and do something else. Or you will end up a social eunich, not knowing what's going on in the national news, not having any non Amway friends and you will end up in debt with no PV to show for it.

Joecool said...

Amway doesn't publish a list of current diamonds. It only published new diamonds. In fact, as far as Amway is concerned, "once a diamond, always a diamond". Thus you can be a former diamond still parading around as a diamond an earning income from speaking and cutting audios for downline to purchase.

I recall the Quixtar days when people would deny that Quixtar = Amway. I used to ask why they sell Amway products and why does Amway issue the bonus checks if Quixtar is not Amway. Those were fun times. :)

Anonymous said...

My former upline founders emerald who has now come down to platinum has been in the cult for Well over 16 years,nowhere close to diamond.