I recently read a comment from an Amway apologist on another forum. She mentions that someone's credentials must be considered when looking at information that is presented by critics. I will comment that showing me a sports car or a fancy suit is not proof of financial success. Telling the audience that you buy homes in cash is not proof either. In fact, some of these boasting diamonds were found to have their homes foreclosed and some had financial difficulty, even though they at times had shown off pictures of their lifestyles. I believe that many diamonds are likely to be more like the general US population - in debt. In debt trying to portray a lifestyle that is unsustainable with their Amway and Amway related income.
I find this subject ironic because not one single upline leader, as far as I know, has ever supplied bonafide credentials about themselves. The audience assumes that the person on stage has success and certain credentials, but do they really? I will say that certainly, if someone is wearing a diamond pin for example, that this person has at least achieved the diamond level as recognized by Amway, but the level may not be current, and the level doesn't indicate the kind of income this person earns from Amway. (Joecool is criticized for being outdated even though I was at 4000 PV at one point in my Amway career)
What many people assume is that the diamonds buy homes and cars in cash, that they wake up at noon every day and participate in leisure activities all day while the cash rolls in. I have heard from some new IBOs, that their upline makes more money taking a crap in the morning than a critic makes in a whole year at a job. That IBO became quiet when some critics offered to take that bet. (Do the math people)
But the truth of the matter is that as far as I know, only former diamonds have come clean about their Amway income. They are the only ones who spoke of credentials and accomplishments. Even critics of Amway will often openly speak about their experiences and achieved levels in the business. In the REAL business world, showing business tax returns and credentials are a normal part of doing business. It appears that only in the world of Amway is the supply of credentials and financial statements a big secret. Now I am not suggesting that IBOs or upline leaders should disclose their financials to the entire world, but certainly prospects and some downline should be able to see how their upline is doing financially in Amway, especially if that is the basis for purchasing their standing orders and function tickets. And I refer to business (Amway and Tools) income and expenses only, not from other personal sources.
I believe that IBOs and upline leaders do not disclose that information because it would not be beneficial to them. If it were, they would likely publish it freely, just as they flash around copies of checks. IBOs and prospects should take this to heart and ask upline the tough questions
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Upline accomplishments are not a determining factor of Amway Business Success. My upline diamond was a phony. Yes, they qualified as a diamond in the early 1990's. One time, one year. Actually, the fact is their 6th leg was themselves in a foreign country. I know this to be a fact because the person at the top of the international leg was a personal friend of mine and he shared that his PV never went over 4000. So, basically the US Emerald incorporated in another country (Mexico) and stacked all kinds of international leads under their umbrella in that country. The group hit 4000 PV and somewhere somehow, by the time it got to the top it was over 7500. Someone's lawn was obviously fertilized with double XX. You buy enough PV to qualify and expect to make it up with function and tool money in the future. That is happening right now as I am writing this. People in the LTD group are organizing Diamond Runs this year by burying PV and having a lot of debt in their groups. I find it amusing that everyone emphasizes diamond so much but an Amway Diamond does not make that much money. Unless they have deep taproots and leader stacked on leader, the income is quite small. 75% of a Diamond's total income comes from the support system. I have spoken to a former Double Diamond who made 175,000 from Amway and over 700,000 from the system. He is now in a different MLM. IBO's are blind to the deception and it does not help that their uplines keep the truth from everyone.
Emerald, I agree. For groups that reward diamonds that qualify and fall out, buying the pin is a great idea because you can make nice income from speaking and the tool money. Amway says once a diamond, always a diamond. You can recognize the fakes whe you attend a function and they have few downline groupies trying to get time with them.
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