Wednesday, October 31, 2012

Is Your Amway Upline Your "Coach"?

In the Amway business, many active IBOs are advised to trust upline. To think of upline as a coach or a mentor. These upline mentors or coaches are supposed to have your best interest at heart and they will guide you to success if only you will be open to learning. Many uplines, including my former uplines used to coin the term "copy" or duplicate. If you can do that you will be successful. Even the simplest of people can copy. The upline may crack a joke about getting thru school by copying. Thus, many IBOs follow exactly what their upline advises them to do.

But then uplines turn the responsibility away from themselves. Many Amway defenders will also claim that downline should not simply follow the advice of upline. They may make a ridiculous claim that standing orders and functions contain advice that must be discerned. That information is like a buffet. You pick and choose what you need and discard the rest. If you are a new IBO or prospect, let me tell you that is a load of guano (crap) that is being heaped on you. Your upline is touted as having experience and wisdom in the Amway business, which is why you are paying good money for voicemail, books, cds, and functions. So why would their advice be something you pick and choose? How would a new IBO know what to pick and choose?

Imagine hiring a guide for a trek in the wilderness. The guide is supposed to be an experienced outdoorsman, perhaps an expert. So if he recommends that you eat certain plants or fruits, you trust that he is going to guide you right. Imagine eating something that made you sick to your stomach, only to have the guide tell you that he just points out plants and fruits and you have to discern which is good for you and which is not. You would fire the guide and tell everyone you know not to use that guide anymore.

But here we have these "systems" such as Network 21, WWDB or BWW that have been "guiding" IBOs for up to 20 years or more in some cases, and the number of diamonds are negligible. Sure there are many new platinums, but many tool consuming platinums have been found to be losing money or making very little money for their efforts. What's more, it would appear that Amway is losing ground in North America based on sales. One can reasonably guess that any new platinums that break are simply replacing the volume for a platinum that no longer exists or a platinum that no longer qualifies. My former upline diamond appears to have all new qualifying platinums from the time I was in the business and here's the kicker. My former diamond had 6 downline rubies. As far as I know, none of these rubies are qualified as platinum anymore, although I have heard that some of these are still active.

Uplines also program their downline to take responsibility for the failure. Thus you have IBOs who did everything that was asked of them, only to fail. Yet these IBOs often blame themselves for their failure. It is my opinion that former IBOs who did everything asked of them only to fail should file a formal complaint against their LOS with the better business bureau. Amway defenders like to think that a lack of formal complaints means that the system works when clearly, there is no unbiased substantial evidence to suggest that the system works. It looks like some succeed in spite of the system, not because of.

The catch in all this is uplines skirting responsibility for the outcomes of those they "mentor" and profit from. IBOs should ask if upline really cared about their success, why do you have to pay for any help that you receive from your upline diamond?

4 comments:

Anonymous said...

amway is garbage.

amwayscam said...

I am not sure, this philosophy - telling what exactly to do and running away when the result turns bad - is from Amway. I would recommend to go through the Amway business reference guide (available in my blog or you can search on google). There it is mentioned that, when you do retail of products you should not use testimonials, you should not recommend any products as a solution to any kind of issues. For example, you cannot say Calcium and Knee pain supplements have helped curing someone's problems and you cannot suggest them to anyone even if you know that they have knee pain. Then what happens in reality, I had a list of illness and respective nutrional supplements for each of them, and it was provided by LOS up lines. There were hundreds of testimonial mails! So if supplements did not work, you just run away!

Anonymous said...

I think people can do the calculations themselves. The bonus schedule means even at diamond level you will have only a middle class income. This buying houses for cash just wont happen. The tools stuff means you are being robbed and even at diamond level you probably will have a significant cost base. Unless of course you get part of the tools income. So i dont think you need to pay uplines to tell you whats not true. Just build your group and avoid spending. Joecool's'former diamond seems to know how to continually build platiniums legs

sarthak brahma said...

Amway peoples are liers I rearly felt it today.