Friday, November 9, 2012

Winners Versus Losers?

One of the things that my upline taught, and I believe is still taught today in various groups is that winners join Amway and losers do not. Or that you were a winner because you were doing something to better your financial future and those who didn't were losers. or broke minded. Of course the upline who said this had no knowledge about those who were not in Amway. Some of them may already have been financially sound or may have been doing something to better their financial future. I'm not sure why these uplines, who promote "positive", had to resort to calling people losers simpy because they did not agree that Amway was the greatest thing since sliced bread.

In many games or sporting events, there will be someone or a team that wins the game and someone or a team that loses the game. Losing a game doesn't make you a loser and certainly, a team that wins the game would not say the losing team were losers. Can you imagine a pro football team's coach taking the podium after a game and saying his team won because the other team was a bunch or broke minded gutless losers? That would never happen, yet we see that frequently in the Amway/IBO world. The owner of Amway, Rich DeVos had once said in a recorded message that just because people do not agree with you (paraphrased) about Amway, does not make them losers and that IBOs should not call people losers.

In all of this, people's jobs are also criticized. That a job stand for "just over broke" or "jackass of the boss" and other blurbs. Many IBO's goals and dreams consist of ditching their job so they can sleep all day and live a life of luxury. Ironically, it is most IBO's jobs that continue to produce income so they can pay their bills and feed their family. It is also an IBO's job that funds their Amway and AMO expenses such as product purchases and functions and voicemail, etc. Without having a job, most people could not even join Amway or pay for any tools. Sadly, most IBOs won't make any money in Amway either, and will have to continue to work at their jobs. I do not believe that someone earning an honest living working a job is a loser. Ironically, the folks calling people losers are often not even netting a profit from their Amway business!

Yes, in this business or the sports world, there will be winners and there will be losers. The question is whether you are the one who is allowed to be the judge of who is and who isn't. I would also suggest that IBOs are completely shutting down potential future business by their behavior. What if I went to a store to purchase something but the item was not available on that particular day, so I don't purchase anything and leave. As I leave, the store owner says I am a loser for not buying something there. Will I go back? Very unlikely. If an IBO truly sees themselves as a store owner, all prospects should be seen as potential business, whether future or present. If your upline tells you that people not interested are losers, you should hand him a mirror.


  1. Nicely written.

    With all the name calling - which is nothing more than posturing and attempts to evoke feelings of prestige and self worth, does this by their own definitions mean that until these IBOs are "free" that they are losers and jackasses themselves for continuing to have a *gasp* job?

  2. Positive talk and thinking is applied only for the people inside the Amway umbrella with personal PV of 300 and also becoming an Eagle in 90 days - which happens to less than five percent of the people who are core IBOs. If my previous sentence does not hold good in any of the criteria, up lines will show the other side of the face. They keep hitting out at the IBOs. IBOs have self image to talk to strangers. But do they ever think against the story - for an IBO there can be 100 downlines but only one up line. Can they say, I am important to you my dear up line, you better treat me with some gratitude! I have never seen or heard in any Ambot educations about teaching an up line how to behave and talk to downlines.

  3. I do not if my post got through previously. Yeah what we do not see is teaching for up lines about how to behave and talk to downlines. It is always the case where downlines have to treat up lines like masters. Just because up line signed up before downline did has no bearing on compromising human dignity.

  4. In the UK lyndon Farrington sponsored directly just over 1000 people. Is that a record.