Tuesday, November 13, 2012

WWDB IBO Retiring Soon?

This is a repost of an article I did last year. This IBO "named it and claimed it: that he would be retiring in November 2011. It's now a year later. Examining his blog makes me think he's lost a lot of steam. He did not even post an article about 2012 FED. I wonder if he retired or quit?


I've been following the journal of an IBO who is in the WWDB LOS. Essentially, I believe the dude is hard working and wanting the best for his family. The problem I see is that he has apparently fallen for the deception that was and continues to be taught by WWDB. Pro Amway folks have criticized Joecool because they say my experience is old and outdated. Yet, here it is on the journal of a current WWDB IBO, pretty much verifies that the same material taught in the late 1990's is still taught today. The only difference I see is that the WWDB leaders are not lying about nobody making a cent of profit from tools. Although they have their own spin on that as well.

Ironically, his website says "Sto Pro Veritate", which means "I stand for the truth". I would guess that Shaun believee what his upline says is the truth but his blog is littered with material that is dicey, but because his upline said so, Shaun believes. I was once there myself, but realized the scam after a number of months. Sometimes it's hard to discern because your sponsor or upline is often a friend or family member. They get you to agree on various issues to build a degree of trust and slow up your level of commitment. Shaun is a perfect example of this.

Basically, Shaun's wife got involved and eventually, Shaun also jumped in. The couple went 1000 PV in March 2010 and even posted copies of their checks. Nothing indicating further progress has been posted since. I would assume any new pin level would have been an article that was newsworthy on such a blog. Lately, there has been more mundane material, and Shaun does not allow comments on his blog anymore, which in itself is interesting. Shaun, in 2009, posted that why wouldn't someone want to work hard for 2-3 years and never have to do it again? 2012 is around the corner, about 3 years since he got started. Food for thought.

Some of the interesting things that can be found on the blog:

The couple plans to purchase a home in cash.
Denied that Greg Duncan (One of their mentors) had bankruptcy issues
Amway/WWDB IBOs have a 2% divorce rate compared to 60% for the rest
Will be Double Eagle Rubies making $117K in 2011
Will be job optional in November 2011
Debt Free (True, but sold their home and cashed in 401K to do so)

Here's a recent quote: "We’ve got some pretty big dreams and today the dream of owning an aircraft was at the forefront. Don’t laugh, get your own dream!"

**Now let me say I wish Shaun and his family well. I hope he does succeed and is able to fulfill his goals and dreams, but not exclusively at his downline's expense. What troubles me is how the leadership at WWDB is apparently teaching him the same junk I saw as an IBO and is filling his heart with false hopes and dreams that are unlikely to ever come to fruition. Even the miniscule number of people who do succeedin Amway, do so at the expense of their trusting downline. Seems that Amway accreditation did nothing to alter or shape the teaching of these LOS's. I will continue to follow his progress and hope that he will eventually see through the facade.


Anonymous said...

I dont know who the shaun guy is. Im a newcomer to your blog. I was a platinum a long time ago so postulate to know a bit about it. If the guy is to reach his goal he can only do so through a large group of people under the illusion they can make money at this. Very few will while of course a few may. If he wants a plane then he will need to benefit from tools which is mainly stealing from downlines. The walking the beaches etc is a rediculous claim you can make for almost any business venture. Finally to make the high pin level he aspires to he will need to work at it full time for years. Now i have no prblem with amway. I would like people to realise what the reality is. For the vast majority of people they have none of the skills needed. Their role can only be to spend whatever they have on self purchases and tools so keep a flow to uplines. For a very few people who know how to motivate groups, they will build enough people to have a flow even if few of who they bring in continue. Thats what separates the big pins from the rest. As the way the plan is presented is very attractive there will always be a big flow of newcomers. Thats why amway has such a strong growth record. More people joining than those leaving each year.

Anonymous said...

even so, once they find out how much more money they lose instead of make, they'll be leaving sooner or later.

Anonymous said...

Another former platinum! Woove, how many quitters, I thought I was all alone when I quit but I seem to have lots of people in the company Joecool. The latest news, is Amway offices in India are again riaded by police. I am looking to see my retired uplines in a open interview for jobs :)