Wednesday, March 13, 2013

Joecool's Conversation With An Amway IBO

An apparent IBO recently engaged me on facebook. I copied his statements and my responses. He goes by the name "Mike". He engaged me for a few exchanges and then he later comes back a month later to try and recruit me. In the exchange I catch him in a lie. Maybe he is learning fake it till you make it? Maybe his upline taught him how to lie? Maybe he is a liar who is also an IBO?

August 17 at 2:54pm Mike:
you wouldn't know a real biz if it hit you in the face.... who r u fooling???

Joe says: Who are you? Some Amway dude?

August 17 at 2:58pm Mike:
10.2 bil this year WITHOUT you... will be over 12 bill when the #'s all shake out... all WITHOUT you... r u stupid... this is fact!!! oh you must have a job... mike

Joe says: Amway 10 billion, Walmart 400+ billion. No comparison.

August 17 at 3:04pm Mike:
lets see ... yes walmart great co... what do they do... oh they distrib.... only prob. with walmart can't have a biz... 15,000 new ibo's per day... over 40 mil. hits on the web everyday... the ONLY debt FREE co on the web that doing over a bill in biz .... income i'm plat. yrly 35-40 k...

Joe says: Debt free? Good for Amway. You are not Amway.

August 17 at 3:27pm Mike:
first thing you can do is call corp... they will give you doc... have been debt free from day one when rich & jay started... i don't know where you went to school but you must have flunked math... your crazy to think over head is 3k per month... no one gets sucked in... they join on their own... how many people start college and never finish... oh lets see ... they quit... mmmmm spent $$$$ on tuition/ books/ room-board....

Joe says: So are you profitable? Mike responds with the broke loser statement but a month later, he’s back………..

September 14 at 4:45pm Mike:
hey Joe... mike here.... do you want me to sponsor you??? had 3 new people at a home meeting on thur. last week... 2 are in and 1 customer... things are going well... mike

Joe says: It’s great that you had people at your meeting. Having people at a meeting doesn’t make you any money does it?

September 15 at 11:51am Mike:
have ALWAY'S been profitable.... i make a profit in EVERY biz i have... have been since i was 22... mike

Joe says: Are you making a net profit? What level are you?

September 15 at 2:24pm Mike:
yeh.. hi Joe... gas, cd's, functions and other expense 300-400.00 monthly... biggest expense are function weekends... run bout 300.00 for ticket,room and food... made over 50k... high margin of profit... must hang in to build the biz right... mike

Joecool commentary: So this IBO admits his expenses run about $300 to $400 a month to “build the business right”. You will notice that a month ago he was a platinum making $35 to $40K. Now, a month later he says he is making $50K. Clearly he is lying, probably faking it but not making it. Why do so many IBOs need to lie?


Anonymous said...

Hi joe. Ask mike to contact you in a year. Then we will see. Mike says 15000 a day join. He forgets to say about this number quit every day also

Joecool said...

I doubt Mike will be around in a year. He'll quit and become an anti Amway blogger. LOL

Anonymous said...

I see brad duncan group just broke a new canadian diamond under leslie wogamott. This woman seems to have built a solid business over the years. But again it shows you have to work it all the time for years. Interesting the high divorse rate among these diamonds.

Anonymous said...

I forgot to add to my post that this is the first usa diamond in wwdb for about 7 years. Not a very convincing record for the tools system. Seems to me this group is falling apart.

Anonymous said...

Seems to me the wolgamott frontline diamonds (eaton/grovenor/harimotto) have never broke a high pin. So my guess would be if they are not growing , then they are crumbling. So i would think they are not requalified diamonds.