Thursday, June 6, 2013

What Are Your Amway IBO Expenses?

Many uplines will use slightly deceptive recruitment tactics when getting new people to see or register into the Amway business. One of the common things was how joining Amway has very little risk, no or very little overhead. This is true, if an IBO is not involved in any of th system related training. However, it is the goal of many if not most uplines to get as many IBOs involved in the system as possible. This is probably because selling standing orders, voicemails and seminars has a higher profit margin for some uplines than the actual movement of Amway volume. So some newbies might join thinking Amway won't cost them much, only to find out that 100 PV might run them more than $300. They may not be aware that standing orders and functions never end and can add an additional cost of up to several hundreds of dollars more. Uplines will then justify the expense by saying the IBO is investing in his/her business.

New IBOs, and especially IBOs who are single should seriously think about the cost of being a business building IBO before joining. Many or most prospects don't know that building an Amway business using system tools and "coaching" can cost them up to$500 or more each month. A single person more than likely cannot possibly consume 100 PV worth or products on a monthly basis unless they almost exclusively consume XS drinks and Nutrilite vitamins. And secondly, how many singles or prospects were consuming cases of energy drinks and vitamins ($300 monthly) before being presented with the Amway business? How many people were willing to fork out hundreds of dollars for a weekend function that may require airfare and hotel stay? I don't think too many people like this exist. But I believe they do so because they have been sold a dream of financial freedom, of early retirement and not having to work a job anymore. But the evidence would suggest that once the dream disappears or reality sets in, how many (former) IBOs continue to purchase Amway products and attend seminars?

I know of many former IBOs and I don't know of any who purchase Amway products on a regular basis and I don't know of ANYONE who has ever forked out money to attend an Amway/AMO function after they stopped being an IBO. Amway's numbers bear out this claim as there is very little sales to people who are not IBOs. The IBO salesforce is responsible for consuming the lion's share of Amway's products and services. I myself have purchased an Amway product or two since I left the business. But I did so only to humor friends who were still in the business. They have all since quit. It is very reasonable to conclude that once the desire to build the business stops, the desire to purchase Amway products also stops.

Most eager young and motivated people who sign up often do not realize that these IBO expenses exist. While Amway acknowledges that these tools and systems expenses are optional, the uplines who promote the tools may suggest that it is insanity to attempt to build an Amway business without the tools or strongly encourage new IBOs to partake. A common statement was that we "needed" to be at the next function no matter what. Missing it would set your business back six months. New IBOs and prospects don't know better so they will often conform. Sadly, there is ZERO unbiased evidence that the tools and seminars do anything to increase IBO volume and/or the sponsorship rate. In my informed and experienced opinion, the tools are ineffective and the vast majority if IBOs would be better off handing their upline a monthly check for $100 and not building the business or buying any products.

IBOs and information seekers should be awar of these potential IBO expenses and determine if the expenses would be worth your while. Keep in mind that someone upline profits handsomely from the tools, even if you do not make a cent from your Amway business. You should have your best interest at heart, no matter what your upline tells you.


Anonymous said...

There we go again, Steve Nakamura is once again not telling the truth about his claims.

First of all, when did uplines make money off of kate voicemails? No one makes a dime off of kate voicemails. It's a private social network that delivers its service when you open up your own line and receive daily newsfeed of success.

Joecool said...

BS. Uplines make lots of money selling KATE (voicermails).

You are stupid or lying. Which is it?

Anonymous said...

Uh, I'd rather say I'm stupid than to say I am lying. The reason why I'm stupid is because I'm wasting my time with an old Japanese sleazeball like you.

Have you ever used Kate? Did you ever send a message? How do you log into your own account? Do you even know how Kate works?

Until you explain to me these questions, then I might consider you to be worth listening to. If anything, get a life you old loser. Aren't you like 40 years old or something? I guess Japs like you can't get over the fact that they have small dicks so they try to talk shit about other people's successes in the world

Joecool said...

These kinds of insulting and racial comments are a great testimony for Amway and IBO's.

Joecool said...

By the way, you're stupid and you're lying, not to mention racist.

Anonymous said...

Why didn't you answer my questions about Kate?

Lol stupid, I'm Asian too, I just enjoy fucking around with you cause you're a 46 year old bitter old fart who tries to make money off his blogs or just enjoys making inaccurate posts about a great company and opportunity.

Anyways, come on gramps, were you gonna answer my questions regarding your intellectual knowledge on Kate? Or are you just talking out of your old ass again?

Look at the way Stevie Nakamura is calling me stupid and a liar, I guess when I speak the truth, this loser just resorts to insults. How immature, I thought at 46 years old you would be much more educated than that. Just because I speak the truth and called you out on your BS, you resort to insults. We now have a testimony of how Stevie is when someone calls him out on his BS! Because most of the time he's not even speaking the truth anyway.

46 YEARS OLD AND BITTER FOR LIFE BECAUSE HE'S BROKE... SHIT, I'm broke too but I'd vomit all over myself if I was broke and doing the same thing Stevie gramps is doing.

Joecool said...

What truth? Come on, you can admit that you're an abject failure in life who's got nothing so you resort to trying to attack me because you have no facts to back up anything you say. I'm not bitter, I enjoy schooling losers like yourself who drive by and try to toss insults.

You say I;m not speaking the truth but cannot identify what is not the truth. Typical loser speak from an Amway defender. LOL

Anonymous said...

Actually they do because each Ibo has to pay a monthly fee if they want to use Kate (I think it's like 25 dollars or something ). In terms of the actual help that Kate offers, I definitely think it's limited as you just spout out daily messages of what your goals are and what you have accomplished.
I think the post above has it's merits as I also believe that many of the tools and the functions in fact are unlikely to boost your sales. For example I attended what they called a family reunion and it was basically a diamond telling his story. The key part was that all he focused on was the Amway business helped him and provided him a good life, but he gives zero substantive advice on how to get there know the first place.
Lastly, by merely focusing on Kate I think you are neglecting the many other points the author made. Kate was merely one of the authors supporting points but you make it sound as if that's the entire argument (called a straw man fallacy btw ). Please make sure you make a coherent and solid counterargument if you are going to post.

Joecool said...

What happened anonymous? Did the cat get your tongue? LOL

Anonymous said...

I'm a former IBO and would very much like to buy some SA8. I really like theri products and am considering rejoining just to be a consumer.

Anonymous said...

Dumb shit hes the only one speaking the truth and your the only one insulting and being an idiot. Quit calling yourself out. Havent you got some important Kates to listen to anyways? Why are you spending time on this dudes blog if you have uplines waiting on you to kiss their feet or find more cult members or whatever else they need ?done?

Unknown said...

Bunch of garbage company is a fraud

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