Friday, December 4, 2015

Your Upline Is Just A Salesperson

When I saw the Amway plan, it made perfect sense at the time, because the diamond who made the presentation made everything seem sensible. Make money and/or save money. On the surface, you would have to be nuts to not want to make or save some money. But it is the reality that is the problem. The reality is for business building IBOs is financial damage or financial disaster from the ongoing costs of the system expenses. I saw crosslines go bankrupt and more than one couple lost their homes to foreclosure by "doing whatever it takes" to get to the next function.

Our group (WWDB) edified people who bought extraordinary amounts of extra tapes/cds, extra function tickets and made superhuman efforts to get to functions. Looking back, I remember an IBO who was edified for coming all the way to a family reunion function in Portland Oregon when he was diagnosed with terminal cancer. The speaker said he could have been miserable spending time at home but here he was making a difference in people's lives. WTF? I wrote a post earlier this month about how IBOs think they are saving the world and helping people when in reality, the masses of IBOs are only "helping" their diamonds to attain material wealth by purchasing function tickets, voicemail, standing orders and other materials.

I would agree that some training and information can be helpful for new IBOs but I do not see any value in a neverending supply of cds and and endless number of meetings and functions. The very thing (support materials) that uplines claim is your key to success is the very thing that nearly guarantees business building IBOs to financial struggles. Our upline wanted IBOs to be out of debt, which is good, but they would also say in the same breath that it was okay to go into hock if it was to attend functions or to purchase additional support materials. WTH? Sadly, many IBOs do not see through this self serving advice.

Most people, including myself are very wary when we deal with car salesmen. We are wary because we know that the salesman is out to make money off of us and will try to sell us every option in the book. Thus we negotiate and reject the car options that we don't really need to have. Guess what? Your uplines are like car salesmen except that they sell you different options such as premier club, standing order, book of the month, function tickets, voicemail, open meeting tickets. Just like a car buying customer, taking all the options maximizes the car salesman's commission and the car dealer's profit. Buying all the support materials increases your upline's profits. Imagine the car salesman telling you that the extended warranty was vital to owning the car. You'd think twice about it, yet uplines will tell you that functions are vital to your Amway business and many IBOs buy it hook line and sinker. I hope this analogy will encourage IBOs to think of support materials as options on the car. You don't need any options to make the car work. Just as you don't really need support materials to buy and sell Amway products, and to get some downline to do the same.

We are wary of car salesmen. In my opinion, downline and prospects should be just as wary of uplines who promote tools as "vital" to your success in Amway. Keep in mind that a sponsor is obligated to help train any downline, regardless of whether they are on the system or not.

11 comments:

Anonymous said...

They're obligated ON PAPER to help everyone in their down-line. But WWDB and a few of the other systems simply won't do it if you refuse to pay for tools and functions. And they have told the big brass in Ada, Michigan to fuck off when De Vos complained about it.

Joecool said...

Yes, I agree. But at least it people read this article, they might realize what a scam that WWDB seems to be running. If IBOs actually sat down to think about it, they are paying for every bit of help they receive. Every open meeting, cd, book, function, voicemail,. etc.

If diamonds were rolling in so much money that they cannot count it, why do IBOs need to pay to attend open meetings where the diamond likely benefits more overall than the individual IBOs who bring guests.

Anonymous said...

True. And if your up-line is your boss, then what kind of a business is it where you have to pay your boss to train you for what you do?

Joecool said...

That's why in my opinion, WWDB is a huge scam.

sarfaraz ahmed said...

true but there are some question which i want to ask you

Joecool said...

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Ray said...

This reminds me of when I was a self employed contractor for a number of years. My various bosses PAID ME to learn the trade and business and then when I went into business for myself I had no problem finding jobs because I did good work for a competitive price and was reliable and courteous. In other words I had what people wanted and THEY came to ME. I never had to pay a nickel for advertising or business training. Because, unlike Amway, my business wasn't a scam. I eventually got back into the union and took a job for the health and pension benefits, something else Amway doesn't offer.

Joecool said...

Good point. If Amway was so good, people would come and not have to be tricked into seeing the Amway plan.

Anonymous said...

Tricked is right. Amway pushers lie to get you into the business, and then they alternately browbeat and shame you into staying.

Joecool said...

Yes, the subtle peer pressure is effective. "Only losers quit". If you're not in the business, you're not a winner. But the reality is a stark contrast and people not in the business are actually the winners.

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