Wednesday, October 2, 2019

Winners And Losers?

One of the things that my upline taught, and I believe is still taught today in various groups is that winners join Amway and losers do not. Or that you were a winner because you were doing something to better your financial future and those who didn't were losers. or broke minded. It was called a broke mentality. Of course the upline who said this had no knowledge about those who were not in Amway. Some of them may already have been financially sound or may have been doing something to better their financial future. I'm not sure why these uplines, who promote "positive", had to resort to calling people losers simpy because they did not agree that Amway was the greatest thing since sliced bread. It's only positive if it's Amway related and anything non Amway is negative. Anyone see a problem with this? 

In many games or sporting events, there will be someone or a team that wins the game and someone or a team that loses the game. Losing a game doesn't make you a loser and certainly, a team that wins the game would not say the losing team were losers. Can you imagine a Superbowl winning team's coach taking the podium after a game and saying his team won because the other team was a bunch or broke minded gutless losers? That would never happen, yet we see that frequently in the Amway/IBO world. The owner of Amway, Rich DeVos had once said in a recorded message that just because people do not agree with you (paraphrased) about Amway, does not make them losers and that IBOs should not call people losers. I believe this has been crafted by upline to apply pressure to downline IBOs to "never quit'. 

In all of this, people's jobs are also criticized. That a job stands for "just over broke" or "jackass of the boss" and other insults. Many IBO's goals and dreams consist of ditching their job so they can sleep until "the crack of noon" and live a life of luxury. Ironically, it is most IBO's jobs that continue to produce income so they can pay their bills and feed their family. It is also an IBO's job that funds their Amway and AMO expenses such as product purchases and functions and voicemail, etc. Without having a job, most people could not even join Amway or pay for any tools. Sadly, most IBOs won't make any money in Amway either, and will have to continue to work at their jobs. I do not believe that someone earning an honest living working a job is a loser. Ironically, many of the folks calling people losers and broke are not even netting a profit from their Amway business! 

Yes, in this business or the sports world, there will be winners and there will be losers. The question is whether you are the one who is allowed to be the judge of who is and who isn't. I would also suggest that IBOs are completely shutting down potential future business by their behavior. What if I went to a store to purchase something but the item was not available on that particular day, so I don't purchase anything and leave. As I leave, the store owner says I am a loser for not buying something there. Will I go back? Very unlikely. If an IBO truly sees themselves as a store owner, all prospects should be seen as potential business, whether future or present. If your upline tells you that people not interested are losers, you should hand him a mirror. Or inform your upline that when you point a finger at someone, there are even more fingers pointing back at you.


Anonymous said...

Persons in Amway are extremely defensive. They know that they are in a two-bit pyramid scheme, and they are painfully aware that Amway's reputation is in the toilet.

So when you say or do anything that casts doubt on Amway, or that makes fun of it, or that expresses skepticism about it, they go nuts. Their defensiveness kicks in, and they start abusing you and calling you "a loser." All this does is prove that they themselves lack confidence in the entire Amway racket, and are very touchy about it.

If you are actually making good money in a real business, you don't get angry at people for not joining you in it. You just ignore them and go on with your business.

But Amway IBOs aren't making any real money from their nickel-and-dime soap suds operation. So naturally they are always angry and ready to lash out at people.

Anonymous said...

It is this one thing that really stands out as the worst in the many lies and false 'truths' spouted by Amway cultists. As you say Joe, it is ridiculous as well because it is the normal job that pays for all of the expensive amway crap that IBO's consume. The fuel they use driving to endless rallies to hear the same dogma over and over. The house they live in, the food they eat... The paltry bonus checks they get maybe cover a coffee or two once a month. All of their spare time down the toilet of their LOS.
People that join Amway do so for two reasons from what I can tell - the first that they know they are, in the great scheme of things a loser and want to win. Amway seems like the easiest option rather than the harder more reliable way of actually bettering yourself and working smart. Or second they are greedy and succumb to the ostentatious displays of wealth and 'dream big', knowing that in reality that is forever beyond their reach.
The reality of it is that those that stay, regardless of why they started are the real losers and are too poor at math, business smarts and lacking in common sense to see the con and the hopeless waste of time, energy and the little money they have being thrown away on the amway cult fantasy. So amway really is more a religious thing than any kind of sensible business plan. It is sad that it ruins or harms so many families and lives though.