One of the big things that was taught by my upline was to recruit people who are in need. People in need of time and/or money are perfect candidates is what I was told. You look for a need and use it as a chance to show the plan. Someone who may be looking for more income is likely to be more open minded. It is also why the upper level pins will display signs of wealth as an enticement, to get people interested and hopefully excited in seeing the plan, and hopefully to get people to register for the opportunity. IBOs will wave around a copy of an upline's check.
Recruits will be asked about their dreams. Amway recruiters will then show a "best case scenario" of people with trappings of great wealth. Of course they will not show you what is likely, which is a net loss due to the "system".
At this point, the recruit may start to wonder if he/she might be able to attain the same level of success. The recruit starts to think if he and find "six" as they talk about in the plan. In a 2004 Dateline segment, the show panned in on people in attendance at a function. Some people were in tears. They probably wanted success so badly that they can taste it. But it will never materialize.
Sadly, there are few people on the stage and thousands of people in the audience. That's the way it has always been. Unless the compensation plan changes, that's the way it is likely to be forever and ever. The 6-4-2 plan has 79 IBOs at 100 PV. Considering the people who never do a thing and those who quit, you can assume that you need much more than 78 downline to a platinum business. And a platinum business is approximately where you start to make a small net profit, according to my understanding. That is because of the costs associated with being involved in a system such as BWW, WWDB, or N21.
For most IBOs who decide to try the business and the systems, they will likely end up losing time and money. LOSING TIME AND MONEY. Unfortunately, most IBOs sign up hoping to gain more time and money. Ironically, what they seek is what they have less of due to their involvement with the systems.
Monday, January 11, 2010
Friday, January 8, 2010
Amway - Negative Cashflow?
One of the things I am hearing about right now by Amway supporters is the concept that Amway pays you to shop there. The problem with this statement is that many IBOs see this rebate but do not calculate the fact that you can still have a better bottom line simply by purchasing a product elsewhere. For example, if WalMart started some kind of cash rebate program, would you quit Amway and shop at WalMart?
Then when an Amway supporter is cornered with this information, they will switch gears and start to defend quality versus price. It's all very predictable.
Honest question for IBOs. Why do you use KATE instead of the Amway voicemail system? Amway pays you to shop there, your upline profits from and does not pay you to use KATE.
One of the biggest problems with especially new IBOs is they ignore negative cashflow. And I cannot really blame them. They are ususally sponsored by someone they trust and they are often taught to ignore facts or taught that they are investing in their business, just like a real business, even though when recruited, they are told little or ZERO risk. Thus an IBO who intends to make a profit will generally get set up with a website and some other materials. While the cost may not be exorbitant, these few materials already exceed a new IBO's income unless they actully go out and sell some goods or are able to sponsor downline who sell and buy products. And the more dedicated an IBO is, the greater the chance is that the IBO's negative cashflow will be larger. When you start to add in standing order and functions, the cashflow gets more and more negative and there are many testimonies of massive debts built up by IBOs in a few years or less.
What's ironic is that many IBOs incur these debts at the advice of their upline, or if you will, "mentors". Many uplines will teach IBOs to "never quit". It is my guess that uplines will make blanket statements like never quit without knowing an IBOs circumstance. Just as a statement like you "need" to attend a certain certain function, or you need standing order. No assessment of an IBO's business or personal circumstances. It appears that uplines are simply interested in making a sale for their BSM business. You may ask why should a diamond assess a downline's business before issuing these statements. I ask why should downline call them "mentors". In the meantime these downline suffer negative cashflow from their Amway business. Ironically, some upline teaches that "insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results".
Then when an Amway supporter is cornered with this information, they will switch gears and start to defend quality versus price. It's all very predictable.
Honest question for IBOs. Why do you use KATE instead of the Amway voicemail system? Amway pays you to shop there, your upline profits from and does not pay you to use KATE.
One of the biggest problems with especially new IBOs is they ignore negative cashflow. And I cannot really blame them. They are ususally sponsored by someone they trust and they are often taught to ignore facts or taught that they are investing in their business, just like a real business, even though when recruited, they are told little or ZERO risk. Thus an IBO who intends to make a profit will generally get set up with a website and some other materials. While the cost may not be exorbitant, these few materials already exceed a new IBO's income unless they actully go out and sell some goods or are able to sponsor downline who sell and buy products. And the more dedicated an IBO is, the greater the chance is that the IBO's negative cashflow will be larger. When you start to add in standing order and functions, the cashflow gets more and more negative and there are many testimonies of massive debts built up by IBOs in a few years or less.
What's ironic is that many IBOs incur these debts at the advice of their upline, or if you will, "mentors". Many uplines will teach IBOs to "never quit". It is my guess that uplines will make blanket statements like never quit without knowing an IBOs circumstance. Just as a statement like you "need" to attend a certain certain function, or you need standing order. No assessment of an IBO's business or personal circumstances. It appears that uplines are simply interested in making a sale for their BSM business. You may ask why should a diamond assess a downline's business before issuing these statements. I ask why should downline call them "mentors". In the meantime these downline suffer negative cashflow from their Amway business. Ironically, some upline teaches that "insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results".
Thursday, January 7, 2010
Amway - Upline Advice - Your Best Interest Or Not?
IBOs, you are called an "Independent Business Owner". This means you are solely responsible for the bottom line of your own business. Apparently, one of the things that commonly happens is that some uplines will take advantage of this by giving advice that is more beneficial to themselves than to their downline. Some of the upline in your group will gain financially from an IBO's movement of product volume as well as tool purchases.
Thus if your upline is advising you to attend a certain function at all costs, or to sell off all your personal goods to buy more standing orders, these kinds of advice needs to be taken with a grain of salt and assessed against the performance of your business and the amount of disposable income you have. Also, you may want to consider what you have gotten out of previous functions or standing orders and decide for yourself whether or not expending the cash to attend a function will be cost effective and whether or not you will get a good return for your investment.
All too often, it would appear that uplines will encourage their downlines to attend all functions, regardless of whether or not they are profitable, and regardless of whether or not the IBO can afford to attend. In my former LOS, I was a member of World Wide Dream Builders. When i sat in the audience, people were taught how they could put off paying their mortgage or their monthly bills to be able to attend a major function. Or IBOs were encouraged to quit their jobs and find another one if they could not get time off from work to attend. Of course, these same uplines were never held accountable for teaching these bad practices.
IBOs, if you are hearing any kind of advice where tools and functions become a priority over your personal financial or family obligations, I would ask you to sit down and think about whether the said advice is truly in your best interest. If you will fall behind on your bills or mortgage, how will you ever catch up as functions come up every 3 to 4 months. You will likely face the same or a tougher decision again in a few months. Is your upline's advice truly in your best interest? If so, how so? Only you can decide that. I urge you to think about it.
Thus if your upline is advising you to attend a certain function at all costs, or to sell off all your personal goods to buy more standing orders, these kinds of advice needs to be taken with a grain of salt and assessed against the performance of your business and the amount of disposable income you have. Also, you may want to consider what you have gotten out of previous functions or standing orders and decide for yourself whether or not expending the cash to attend a function will be cost effective and whether or not you will get a good return for your investment.
All too often, it would appear that uplines will encourage their downlines to attend all functions, regardless of whether or not they are profitable, and regardless of whether or not the IBO can afford to attend. In my former LOS, I was a member of World Wide Dream Builders. When i sat in the audience, people were taught how they could put off paying their mortgage or their monthly bills to be able to attend a major function. Or IBOs were encouraged to quit their jobs and find another one if they could not get time off from work to attend. Of course, these same uplines were never held accountable for teaching these bad practices.
IBOs, if you are hearing any kind of advice where tools and functions become a priority over your personal financial or family obligations, I would ask you to sit down and think about whether the said advice is truly in your best interest. If you will fall behind on your bills or mortgage, how will you ever catch up as functions come up every 3 to 4 months. You will likely face the same or a tougher decision again in a few months. Is your upline's advice truly in your best interest? If so, how so? Only you can decide that. I urge you to think about it.
Tuesday, January 5, 2010
Amway - BBB Rating?
This is an article written by Beth Dornan, an Amway employee:
http://amwayglobalinsider.opportunityzone.com/2007/02/07/No_2C00_-Quixtar-doesn_2700_t-have-a-_2200_AA_2200_-rating-from-the-BBB-_2D00_-but-neither-does-anyone-else_2100_-.aspx
Amway Global Insider
The back story on what we do at Amway Global to support the business opportunity and IBOs
No, Quixtar doesn't have a "AA" rating from the BBB - it doesn't have any rating.
Wednesday, February 07, 2007
There was an interesting exchange in a forum last week about Quixtar's BBB (Better Business Bureau) rating. One person suggested that neither Quixtar nor any LOA had achieved a "AA" rating from the BBB.
And that's true. Because the BBB does not rate companies against a scorecard and assign a rating with letters or numbers. NOTE: As it's been pointed out in comments, some local BBBs have rating systems but West Michigan, which administers Quixtar's report, does not. Rather, the BBB provides information on whether a company has a satisfactory record in dealing with consumer complaints and issues.
This from the BBB's FAQ:
The BBB reports on a firm's marketplace practices. It does not report either individual or business credit information. BBB reliability reports contain information about the nature of the business, its principal officers, a three-year summary of any complaints processed, and any government action involving the company's marketplace practices. Most Bureaus will also report a company's BBB membership in its public report and note whether it participates in any special BBB programs to improve customer satisfaction.
The BBB does not endorse or recommend particular companies; it provides information related to customer satisfaction and complaints so consumers can make informed decisions based on the experiences of others.
Quixtar is one of the most searched terms on the West Michigan BBB Web site. That's because the national Council of Better Busienss Bureaus refers inquiries back to regional offices that handle inquiries related to companies in their service areas. So if you go to the national site and type in a search for Quixtar, you'll be redirected to the West Michigan site and the most current Quixtar BBB report. You'll see that while inquiries are high, the small number of complaints filed have been resolved to the satisfaction of the BBB and we hope, the consumers.
Quixtar is a member of the BBB and also participates in the BBB Online Reliability Program, which provides specific rules pertaining to online retailers and consumer protections.
Now there are other companies that provide ratings of a company's credit and payment performance, like Dun and Bradstreet and Standard and Poor. But those are measures of a company's financial solvency, not how they resolve issues or deal with customer concerns.
We respond quickly to BBB complaints, but no more quickly than to other concerns shared with us by phone or e-mail. Anyone with a concern or complaint regarding our plan, products or other aspects of our business are welcome to contact us for discussion and if appropriate, investigation, and ultimately resolution of the issue. We're in the process of revamping the "Contact Us" section at Quixtar.com to make it even easier to share a product or company concern or to file a complaint if there's a potential infringement of Quixtar's Rules of Conduct or Code of Ethics. Today, you can send rules issues to abuse@quixtar.com for follow-up. You can contact Quixtar Customer Support with product issues. If you have a question pertaining to Quixtar, you can contact PR at PR@quixtar.com.
The changes to "Contact Us" will just make it quicker and easier to share -- whether it's a concern, a complaint, or the occasional compliment!
http://amwayglobalinsider.opportunityzone.com/2007/02/07/No_2C00_-Quixtar-doesn_2700_t-have-a-_2200_AA_2200_-rating-from-the-BBB-_2D00_-but-neither-does-anyone-else_2100_-.aspx
Amway Global Insider
The back story on what we do at Amway Global to support the business opportunity and IBOs
No, Quixtar doesn't have a "AA" rating from the BBB - it doesn't have any rating.
Wednesday, February 07, 2007
There was an interesting exchange in a forum last week about Quixtar's BBB (Better Business Bureau) rating. One person suggested that neither Quixtar nor any LOA had achieved a "AA" rating from the BBB.
And that's true. Because the BBB does not rate companies against a scorecard and assign a rating with letters or numbers. NOTE: As it's been pointed out in comments, some local BBBs have rating systems but West Michigan, which administers Quixtar's report, does not. Rather, the BBB provides information on whether a company has a satisfactory record in dealing with consumer complaints and issues.
This from the BBB's FAQ:
The BBB reports on a firm's marketplace practices. It does not report either individual or business credit information. BBB reliability reports contain information about the nature of the business, its principal officers, a three-year summary of any complaints processed, and any government action involving the company's marketplace practices. Most Bureaus will also report a company's BBB membership in its public report and note whether it participates in any special BBB programs to improve customer satisfaction.
The BBB does not endorse or recommend particular companies; it provides information related to customer satisfaction and complaints so consumers can make informed decisions based on the experiences of others.
Quixtar is one of the most searched terms on the West Michigan BBB Web site. That's because the national Council of Better Busienss Bureaus refers inquiries back to regional offices that handle inquiries related to companies in their service areas. So if you go to the national site and type in a search for Quixtar, you'll be redirected to the West Michigan site and the most current Quixtar BBB report. You'll see that while inquiries are high, the small number of complaints filed have been resolved to the satisfaction of the BBB and we hope, the consumers.
Quixtar is a member of the BBB and also participates in the BBB Online Reliability Program, which provides specific rules pertaining to online retailers and consumer protections.
Now there are other companies that provide ratings of a company's credit and payment performance, like Dun and Bradstreet and Standard and Poor. But those are measures of a company's financial solvency, not how they resolve issues or deal with customer concerns.
We respond quickly to BBB complaints, but no more quickly than to other concerns shared with us by phone or e-mail. Anyone with a concern or complaint regarding our plan, products or other aspects of our business are welcome to contact us for discussion and if appropriate, investigation, and ultimately resolution of the issue. We're in the process of revamping the "Contact Us" section at Quixtar.com to make it even easier to share a product or company concern or to file a complaint if there's a potential infringement of Quixtar's Rules of Conduct or Code of Ethics. Today, you can send rules issues to abuse@quixtar.com for follow-up. You can contact Quixtar Customer Support with product issues. If you have a question pertaining to Quixtar, you can contact PR at PR@quixtar.com.
The changes to "Contact Us" will just make it quicker and easier to share -- whether it's a concern, a complaint, or the occasional compliment!
Amway - The Business Is Fair?
One of the things my upline always taught was how the business was fair. Everyone starts at zero, we were told. Everyone does start at zero, but it is hardly fair when you break down the compensation and the layers of people between you and your uplines. I will also speak about how the sponsoring is somewhat cloudy as well. Despite the claim that you will be paid if you "do the work", it is not necessarily true. These are catch phrases that upline uses to make it seem fair.
The sponsoring system that Amway uses is a hit or miss. You could have tons of business acumen and insight on running a business, but your sponsor and others upline will always be your upline and will always profit on your efforts - simply because they were there first. In many cases, a sponsor has nothing to offer a downline. They are in no way shape or form able to advise or give sound business advice. But as long as they are in the business, they get to profit from your efforts. Does that sound fair to you?
Also, let's take a new IBO for example. If that new IBO sells and consumes 100 PV, that new IBO will receive a 3% bonus. Amway pays 32% to 33% of their take in bonuses. Thus the new IBO who "did the work" gets 3% and somewhere in the layers of upline, 29% to 30% gets split up among the upline. Some of the upline don't know that the new IBO exists, but they get a portion of the bonus, simply because they were there first. The new IBO has done the work and some of the uplines have done nothing to help this new IBO, but they enjoy a percentage of that IBO's bonus. Does that sound fair?
Tenured upline may also sell business support materials such as voicemail, websites, books, cds, and seminars. None of these materials have been proven to be effective in assisting IBOs in building a business. In fact, some of the biggest crown ambassador types built their Amway businesses before these materials existed. But because they were there first, they now claim to have the expertise on how to build a successful Amway business. Based on some numbers that Amway has provided, we can conclude that less than 1 in 240 IBOs ever reach platinum and out of those who reach platinum, less than 1% ever reach diamond. Not much evidence that the system works. Yes, I acknowledge that some people don't follow the system, but out of these ones who do follow the system, the success rate is still miserably low. If the system is so diffcult to follow and succeed, is it fair for IBOs to have to keep paying for a system that will not help them?
All of the above are reasons a new IBO has the deck stacked unfairly against them. Yes, some IBOs can overcome overwhelming challenges and succeed, but they are few and far between. Is this business set up in a fair manner? You decide.
The sponsoring system that Amway uses is a hit or miss. You could have tons of business acumen and insight on running a business, but your sponsor and others upline will always be your upline and will always profit on your efforts - simply because they were there first. In many cases, a sponsor has nothing to offer a downline. They are in no way shape or form able to advise or give sound business advice. But as long as they are in the business, they get to profit from your efforts. Does that sound fair to you?
Also, let's take a new IBO for example. If that new IBO sells and consumes 100 PV, that new IBO will receive a 3% bonus. Amway pays 32% to 33% of their take in bonuses. Thus the new IBO who "did the work" gets 3% and somewhere in the layers of upline, 29% to 30% gets split up among the upline. Some of the upline don't know that the new IBO exists, but they get a portion of the bonus, simply because they were there first. The new IBO has done the work and some of the uplines have done nothing to help this new IBO, but they enjoy a percentage of that IBO's bonus. Does that sound fair?
Tenured upline may also sell business support materials such as voicemail, websites, books, cds, and seminars. None of these materials have been proven to be effective in assisting IBOs in building a business. In fact, some of the biggest crown ambassador types built their Amway businesses before these materials existed. But because they were there first, they now claim to have the expertise on how to build a successful Amway business. Based on some numbers that Amway has provided, we can conclude that less than 1 in 240 IBOs ever reach platinum and out of those who reach platinum, less than 1% ever reach diamond. Not much evidence that the system works. Yes, I acknowledge that some people don't follow the system, but out of these ones who do follow the system, the success rate is still miserably low. If the system is so diffcult to follow and succeed, is it fair for IBOs to have to keep paying for a system that will not help them?
All of the above are reasons a new IBO has the deck stacked unfairly against them. Yes, some IBOs can overcome overwhelming challenges and succeed, but they are few and far between. Is this business set up in a fair manner? You decide.
Monday, January 4, 2010
Amway - Never Quit?
"Never Quit" was one of the things I often heard when I was an IBO. To quit seemed like the kiss of death as an IBO. I believe that the never quit mantra can be useful if the saying was meant to read as never quit trying, or never quit trying to better yourself. But in the Amway business, when uplines talk about never quit, what they mean is never quit doing 100 PV and never quit buying tools.
I find it ironic that so many IBOs think of the diamonds on stage as being mentors to them. In fact, these diamonds don't know most of their faithful downline IBOs. They don't know their personal circumstances or whether they are progressing in building their business, thus a blanket "never quit" statement is insincere at best. It seems that the never quit saying is a self serving thought, especially since the upline diamond benefits financially by an IBO staying on board with the tools program.
When you stop and think for a moment, your upline benefits financially from almost every aspect of the business. You move 100 PV and you get 3% while somewhere upline, about 30% bonus gets shared by your sponsor and further uplines. Your voicemail account is profit for upline. Your website profits upline, standing order, book of the month and functions all pour money into your upline's pockets. In fact, it seems that IBOs pay through their teeth for almost every bit of information they receive, regardless of any success in Amway.
If your upline truly had vital information that would make your business grow, why would they want to withhold that information from downline? Maybe your uplines don't truly want your success? Maybe they only want your money? Is that why the "never quit" battle cry is made? Does your upline diamond take the time to get to know as many IBOs as possible on a personal level? Do they know your individual circumstances? Do they truly care about your success? If they did care, how could they stand on a stage and shout "never quit"?
Ironically, many - a - diamond did not take their own advice. Many a diamond has quit in recent years. Makes you wonder why someone would quit after achieving diamond? Makes you wonder why someone would quit when you can "walk the beaches" and continue to collect an income. Maybe this opportunity is not all that you have been led to believe?
I find it ironic that so many IBOs think of the diamonds on stage as being mentors to them. In fact, these diamonds don't know most of their faithful downline IBOs. They don't know their personal circumstances or whether they are progressing in building their business, thus a blanket "never quit" statement is insincere at best. It seems that the never quit saying is a self serving thought, especially since the upline diamond benefits financially by an IBO staying on board with the tools program.
When you stop and think for a moment, your upline benefits financially from almost every aspect of the business. You move 100 PV and you get 3% while somewhere upline, about 30% bonus gets shared by your sponsor and further uplines. Your voicemail account is profit for upline. Your website profits upline, standing order, book of the month and functions all pour money into your upline's pockets. In fact, it seems that IBOs pay through their teeth for almost every bit of information they receive, regardless of any success in Amway.
If your upline truly had vital information that would make your business grow, why would they want to withhold that information from downline? Maybe your uplines don't truly want your success? Maybe they only want your money? Is that why the "never quit" battle cry is made? Does your upline diamond take the time to get to know as many IBOs as possible on a personal level? Do they know your individual circumstances? Do they truly care about your success? If they did care, how could they stand on a stage and shout "never quit"?
Ironically, many - a - diamond did not take their own advice. Many a diamond has quit in recent years. Makes you wonder why someone would quit after achieving diamond? Makes you wonder why someone would quit when you can "walk the beaches" and continue to collect an income. Maybe this opportunity is not all that you have been led to believe?
Friday, January 1, 2010
Amway Tools - A Conflict Of Interest?
Over my Amway and blogging experience, I have come to a conclusion which I will stand by. And this, in my informed opinion, is a signficant problem with the Amway opportunity. The Amway owner, Rich Devos acknowledged this issue back in 1983 in his "directly speaking" tape and unfortunately, nothing apparently substantial was ever done and therefore, the problem exists today.
The Amway opportunity is one part of the issue, with the tools systems being the other prong. Over the years, the Amway opportunity and the tools systems have formed a symbiotic relationship. It is as if Amway needs the system and the system needs Amway. What I mean is that Amway provides the opportunity, and then the system uses the opportunity to sell the system. In the meantime, the system leaders teach 100 PV, product loyalty, and do most if not all of the new IBO recruiting. Amway benefits as the system teaches movement of PV whether by sales or self consumption, and new IBO recruitment, and the system leaders benefit by having a captive audience to sell their cds, books, seminars, voicemail, and website fees.
The conflict of interest occurs when uplines tell their new IBOs that they "need" to attend a certain function, or that they "need" standing order to succeed. The upline is smart enough not to say the system is "required", but certainly, they will put a defacto requirement by sayimg things such as nobody has ever succeeded without the system, but you can try to be the first, or they may say the system is optional, but so is success. Of someone may say so and so diamond (insert) name is a multi millionaire and he advocates the system, but you can go against his advice if you think you know better.
The bigger problem is that these upline leaders will tell you that you basically cannot succeed without these tools, but at the same time, the more tools you buy, the more profit these uplines make. Some Amway apologists will justify this by saying a college professor may sell his own books to his students. But this is not the same thing. A college professor may spend years researching to write that one book. He will be teaching his expertise that is written in the book. When you attend seminars or listen to cds, you do not have one expert guiding you with clear documentation on how they succeeded. You have very general generic experiences coming from various speakers who may or may not have any common background with IBOs. Thus these upline leaders will profit from their downline IBO volume and also from tools that they advise downline to purchasem regardless of downline success or progress in the business.
As evidence of these bad practices by upline, consider this. If upline truly has "valuable" information that would help you succeed, they would get that information to you in whatever means they could. Either by voicemail, MP3, Youtube or whatever. Why would they withhold trade secrets if they really wanted your success? Has it ever occured to IBOs that maybe uplines doesn't want your success? Maybe it is why you must pay for any piece of advice or support you receive. Maybe upline is perfectly happy with people coming and going as long as there are tool purchases because then there are no new IBOs (platinums and up) to share the tool profits with.
There is a definite conflict of interest with profiting uplines advising you to buy tools. The question if whether you see it or not?
P.S. Happy New Year Everyone!
The Amway opportunity is one part of the issue, with the tools systems being the other prong. Over the years, the Amway opportunity and the tools systems have formed a symbiotic relationship. It is as if Amway needs the system and the system needs Amway. What I mean is that Amway provides the opportunity, and then the system uses the opportunity to sell the system. In the meantime, the system leaders teach 100 PV, product loyalty, and do most if not all of the new IBO recruiting. Amway benefits as the system teaches movement of PV whether by sales or self consumption, and new IBO recruitment, and the system leaders benefit by having a captive audience to sell their cds, books, seminars, voicemail, and website fees.
The conflict of interest occurs when uplines tell their new IBOs that they "need" to attend a certain function, or that they "need" standing order to succeed. The upline is smart enough not to say the system is "required", but certainly, they will put a defacto requirement by sayimg things such as nobody has ever succeeded without the system, but you can try to be the first, or they may say the system is optional, but so is success. Of someone may say so and so diamond (insert) name is a multi millionaire and he advocates the system, but you can go against his advice if you think you know better.
The bigger problem is that these upline leaders will tell you that you basically cannot succeed without these tools, but at the same time, the more tools you buy, the more profit these uplines make. Some Amway apologists will justify this by saying a college professor may sell his own books to his students. But this is not the same thing. A college professor may spend years researching to write that one book. He will be teaching his expertise that is written in the book. When you attend seminars or listen to cds, you do not have one expert guiding you with clear documentation on how they succeeded. You have very general generic experiences coming from various speakers who may or may not have any common background with IBOs. Thus these upline leaders will profit from their downline IBO volume and also from tools that they advise downline to purchasem regardless of downline success or progress in the business.
As evidence of these bad practices by upline, consider this. If upline truly has "valuable" information that would help you succeed, they would get that information to you in whatever means they could. Either by voicemail, MP3, Youtube or whatever. Why would they withhold trade secrets if they really wanted your success? Has it ever occured to IBOs that maybe uplines doesn't want your success? Maybe it is why you must pay for any piece of advice or support you receive. Maybe upline is perfectly happy with people coming and going as long as there are tool purchases because then there are no new IBOs (platinums and up) to share the tool profits with.
There is a definite conflict of interest with profiting uplines advising you to buy tools. The question if whether you see it or not?
P.S. Happy New Year Everyone!
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