Tuesday, July 5, 2016

Is Lying Needed To Succeed In Amway?

It is my opinion that lying is a required skill in order to make it big in Amway. Before you go all crazy and disregard what I"m saying, let me explain why.

When I was an IBO, diamonds told bold faced lies (I was an IBO in 1997). Back then, the internet was not nearly as accessible as it is now and looking up things was a different task than it is now with google or yahoo. So the WWDB diamonds stood on stage and swore that NOBODY made a cent on tools and functions. We were told that WWDB was a non profit organization and that any profits made were simply re-invested back into the company to reduce the cost of future events and functions (which never happened). Without easy access to information, most of the audience believed the diamonds. We had no reason to doubt because they "told us" that they had our best interests at heart.

Looking back, those lies were the tip of the iceberg. The diamonds told many lies. They more than likely lied about how much income they made from Amway and I'm certain some of them lied about paying for everything they own in cash. They lied about WWDB having a nearly non existent divorce rate compared to the rest of the world. I'm sure they lied about the "trappings" of wealth they claimed to have. A few diamonds in the past,, had some financial problems such as home foreclosures and a prominent WWDB triple diamond filed chapter 7 bankruptcy in 2009 or so. When their financials became public record, we could see debt, unpaid taxes and other problems by people we thought were wealthy beyond our dreams. They were not.

The diamonds also taught the troops to lie and be deceptive about Amway to get people to see the plan or to entive them to sign up. My last blog post was titled "fake it till you make it", which is about lies and deception taught by upline to help downline to recruit potential IBOs. If the diamonds lie and teach lies to promote Amway, my conclusion is that lying is required in order to succeed in Amway. Apparently it is a trait that the diamonds I saw, possessed. Even after I quit, I heard numerous lies from IBOs denying that "Quixtar" had nothing to do with Amway, when in fact Quixtar was just a new name for Amway North America. Imagine a prospect asking someone why they were selling Amway products when Quixtar had nothing to do with Amway?

It is my conclusion that lying is indeed needed for Amway success. The better and more convicing the liar you are, the better you can recruit downline and advance in the Amway pay plan. If you dont believe me, name one person who was uber successful by being upfront and open about Amway and any related questions, such as how much they actually make in Amway and how much they make from tools. You will hear crickets more than you hear answers.

9 comments:

Anonymous said...

Most likely when you ask a critical question, your upline will answer by spinning his words without a direct point and the more you ask, your upline will be enraged by telling you that "it's none of your business" and "NEVER QUESTION UPLINE."

Anonymous said...

Lying also involves filtering out truths that are detrimental to "the business". Not only that it has to be a lie but a lie that contains only positive description about "the business".

Anonymous said...

The Amway Corporation (and all its little subsystems like WWDB, Team21, BWW, URA and the rest) are built on continuous and in-depth lying.

They lie about "residual income." They lie about their "6-4-2" plan. They lie about "retiring in 2 to 5 years." They lie about the value of "tools." They lie about how important "functions" are. They lie about "partnering" with big corporations. They even lie about what their name is.

But this is par for the course with Big Business. American business schools teach you that it's OK to lie for profit, as long as you aren't called on it. They have the same mentality as professional sports players -- if the referee doesn't blow the whistle on you, you've done nothing wrong.

Joecool said...

When I asked my upline how much he made, he said it was non of my business. I was wondering WTF? You're telling me that you make so much money so I should join.

Joecool said...

Yes, upline likes to "eliminate negative", which includes friends and family that do not agree with you about Amway. That's why some people consider Amway a cult.

Joecool said...

The Amwayers will only give you the "best case scenario" but not what's likely or realistic.

Anonymous said...

One sponsor that I encountered with told me that he knew of a guy who became financially free at 25 because of am*** but when asked about the name, he was shaking his head and stuttered a lot.

Anonymous said...

Eliminating negative also means that the IBO must ignore losses.

Joecool said...

Exactly! Great point!