Wednesday, August 8, 2012

Success In Amway Is A Choice?

Many IBOs seem to think that success in business or in other aspects of life is simply a choice. They mistakenly believe that you can actually choose to succeed or not. They apparently believe that persistence and choosing to win will eventually land them a premiere spot at diamond club. If that were truly the case, wouldn't we see hoards of new diamonds each and every year? Instead, we see one here and one there, and while there are a few new diamonds in the US every so often, we see others quitting, dropping out or leaving Amway for greener pastures. Make you wonder if the prize is worth pursuing in the first place.

But IBOs and information seekers should understand quite clearly. You cannot simply "choose" to win or succeed. In a football game, both sides can believe and choose to win, but still, only one can be the victor. In Amway, it is common for a platinum to have 100 to 200 downline. Thus to be a platinum, you need to be in the top one half of one percent of IBOs. To be a diamond, you will need to be in the top 600 to 1200 IBOs, not counting the masses of IBOs who register and do nothing or register and do a little and quit. Only one in about ten to twenty thousand will ever reach diamond in North America.

Sure, IBOs may cite some touching story like "Rudy". Basically a nobody who dreamed of playing for Notre Dame. He busted his butt and did whatever it took to make the team and the movie ends with him getting in a game, making a sack and being carried off the field by his teammates in a blaze of glory. A great and inspiring movie. But what you don't see is the possible tens of thousands of young men who had the same dream, may have worked every bit as hard but circumstances and situations prevented them from achieving the same limited success. Uplines want you to think these kinds of stories can happen to everyone, but the fact is that there is only a little room at the top. If stories like Rudy were common, then there would have been nothing special about it. An elite athlete like a Michael Jordan or a Tiger Woods only comes along once or twice in a lifetime. It is like achieving diamond. It happens but it is a rare occasion, especially in North America where Amway appears to be shrinking instead of growing.

In the Amway business, many prospects and IBOs are motivated and driven to succeed. Many of them are fine young men and women who want more in life. But the vast majority of those who try will not achieve their dreams via the Amway opportunity no matter how hard they work and no matter how badly they want it. The reason is because there are too many variables that are not in direct control of the IBO. The Amway reputation in North America is spotty at best so sponsoring downline is nearly impossible. And when you can sponsor, chances are your downline will do little or nothing. Many new IBOs will work hard, but quit because they are faced with the challenges I just mentioned. And even if you can overcome the overwhelming odds, you still need to keeping working hard constantly to maintain the business, all for an unstable average diamond income of $146,995, which doesn't consider taxes, medical insurance and other perks you may receive at a job. All told, I believe the diamond income is not all it's cracked up to be when you consider the charade you must play to display the diamond lifestyle. Do the math and you will be able to see for yourself.

In the end, it seems as though the prize isn't as great as it seems, and the trail to success is one that most cannot endure. And even if you achieve diamond, you can lose it quite easily as others have discovered. The bottom line is that you cannot simply choose to succeed in Amway or any other endeavor. Good luck if you decide to attempt it anyway.


Mike said...

Hey Joe, I was looking at some Amway stuff and noticed that ibofb is back to his cyber bullying again. What is his problem? Did you guys fight or something and then he retaliated by writing that article with old material?

Joecool said...

Hey Mike,

IBOfightback is obsessed with me. I think he cannot handle being outsmarted by me all the time. One of the things he failed to mention in his article is that he is a registered member of the World Sex Guide. I suspect he was using my story as an excuse to login and read all the stories there. A lot of his material is his current story is completely inaccurate.

EL said...

I really like your posts. A friend of mine who is 23 (I'm 22) has just finished creating his Amway website, and is now contacting everyone he knows so that they can take advantage of this opportunity, too. I've been doing all the research that I can, studying the system (PV, BV, gems, leadership bonus, etc.). I watched the Dateline report, read most of Married to an Ambot posts, now I'm reading through Joecool's posts. Are there any pros to being an Amway IBO? Have I just been reading all the negative things written about Amway?

Joecool said...

EL, the fact is that nearly everyone who gets involved in Amway will make nothing or lose money.

It's great to be in Amway if you own Amway or if you can make money by selling training material to build Amway. I don't see aren't many pros to being an Amway IBO. While some people make money, there are quite rare.

amwayscam said...

Agreed with everything written Joe, I actually denied to join amway when I was shown 'the plan' for the first time. After one and half years later I called the same guy and joined the business becuause I needed some extra income with all good heart self motivation and what not. There is in important hurdle here. When you desperately want to be successful my up line told me you need to believe in business; wants and beliefs are different! Yes they're but will you do something desperately wanting to be successful and not believing you will succeed? How rubbish that is, and I had the guts to throw the CDs and books back to him and say 'I Quit' when I realised that, for every success they make you think someone else's responsible and for every failure I was responsible. More and more you be associated to CDs, Books and seminars and up-line you will feel guilty of not having succeeded even though the entire Amway is mathematically designed ensure IBOs do fail. None of them are positive helping people, but they can make you bare without your knowledge.
EL, I have been the biggest fan of this Blog and a few others. I actually worked day in and out in Amway and had limited losses in about 21 months in the business. I quit before I would become financial suicide and whatever I know about Amway is as much as anyone could know being diamond. There is nothing called more knowledge being a diamond, you find more cults you become diamond, else not. I have written entire story of mine in my blog If you need more materials, both qualitative and quantitive, you can find them there too. I have nothing against anyone in Amway but honestly, there is nothing you can gain in Amway and mostly lose through it - mentally and financially

amwayscam said...

I do not know what is the purpose of that, because there will be pro and anti for anything. I am here to only flush out the anger and hopefully help someone not to fall in the trap. No idea what he gets out of pro-Amway propaganda. He is there everywhere I guess