Friday, August 24, 2012

IBOFightback - Cyberbully, Now Turned Cyberstalker?

IBOFightback, aka "Insider" aka "David Steadson" in 2008 wrote what he considered an expose' on Joecool. This was in response to my article of having received two emails in which one was a threat. In his usual dishonest manner, Steadson took editorial liberties in claiming that I lied about being threatened. I was later able to identify the threatening emailer as someone from Scarborough Ontario Canada. This person still frequents Joecool's blog leaving snide comments and other threats: Rogers Cable (99.245.94.215) IP address Scarborough, Ontario, Canada

An Amway employee's response to IBOFightback's expose' on Joecool was this article:

http://blogs.amway.com/amwayinsider/2008/01/15/cyber-bullies-not-welcome-here/

"As those who frequent the Opportunity Zone know, our conversations here are governed by a philosophy we call "civil discourse."

"Civil discourse means we agree to disagree, but not to be disagreeable. In other words, I accept your right to have an opinion that differs from my own and ask that you do the same. In a word, it means respect. Bullies aren't allowed. I was disturbed to read that someone who has been critical of this business has been harassed and disparaging information about him posted by a cyber bully. While I can't enforce civil discourse in any forum but the Opportunity Zone, I can ask that those who are engaged with this business carefully consider the impact that disparaging those with opposing views has on perceptions of the Quixtar and Amway businesses. As a business, we're about building people up, not tearing them down. Just because someone doesn't support our business doesn't mean they should be criticized for those views or have inappropriate information posted about them. As a former boss of mine used to say, our reputation is built on everything every one of us does and says every day. I'd prefer that our reputation be built on respect for all people of all views." [End Quote]

The other day, IBOFightback wrote another expose' supposedly exposing another anti Amway blogger, the author of Married To An Ambot. The way the article is written in my opinion, hinges on harassment and almost appears that IBOFB has been cyber stalking this blogger. It certainly must have taken many hours of snooping and sneaking around to collect all of that data, not to mention how creepy that is. Ironically, IBOFB had been accusing Joecool of being that very same blogger, and of course, as usual, he was dead wrong. This article is disturbing in many ways. The lengths this man goes through makes me think he is psychologically deranged. What reasonable person would go through all that trouble and spend all that time to harass someone who doesn't agree with his rosy view of Amway? He is obviously obsessed with defending Amway at all costs, even though he insists he is not in anyway compensated for his efforts.

What are you going to do IBOFightback? Cyber bully, cyberstalk and harass anyone who doesn't agree with you about Amway? You took an out of context statement and claimed it was a threat against you on the Married to An Ambot blog. When I read that comment, it looked benign, contrast to your statement that you would "have our guts for garters", referring to a threat you made to myself and another blogger named "Rocket". And really David, you shouldn't complain about posting anonymously to defame people. You've done that very thing right here on Joecool's blog trying to pass off defamatory comments against Joecool. You just didn't know I had installed an IP and stats tracker, which is how I caught you. You also unsuccessfully tried to post defamatory comments on this blog using a program called "hidemyass.com". You know that thing about people who live in glass houses and all.

P.S. IBOFB owes Joecool $50,000. Joecool is not Steve Nakamura.

51 comments:

Anonymous said...

IBOfightback is a total creep. Where does he get off thinking he is exposing people? He's just making himself look like a bully who needs a couple of bitchslaps. What a loser.

Tony Robinson said...

I have a question if I may? If Joecool is not Steve Nakamura the who is Steve Nakamura?

Joecool said...

Who knows? Ibofightback probably made it up.

Anonymous said...

Tony Robinson,

Steve Nakamura is a chef who owns a restaurant on the coast of Oahu very popular with locals. I think the restaurant may have been featured on the show "Diners, Drive-ins, and Dives" hosted by Guy Fieri on the Food Network. Ibofightback probably picked up the name to try and pin on Joe Cool, along with the rest of his silly juvenile garbage, gossip, and Amway Kool-Aid drinker fodder. Let us know if you have any more questions. Take care now,

--Daniel

amwayscam said...

If someone is so childish to keep doing some non sense research (word should not be used I guess) and proclaiming victories, it only tells you he lacks what adults should have - maturity. Adults are expected to take decisions on their own and not based on some individual opinions, this is common sense. He fails to understand that, gets everything personalized. So he is offensive about everyone in the world who do not like Amway or anything related, not worth talking more than this about him.

Anonymous said...

Hahahahah wow! I bet the first person who commented above named "Anonymous" is probably Joecool aka "Steve Nakamura" and illegal sex prostitution activist in Honolulu, Hawaii.

The reason that is, is because Joe/Steve wants to get people to really believe that people are agreeing wih him and buying into his lie at this point.

Hey Joecool, I mean, Steve, could you do something else with your life? I mean, there's gotta be something else to do. And no, I am not IBO Fight Back, and no, I am not an Amway representative being paid to blog here and personally threat you; or, in your terms, "defend the evil cult." LOL!

Seriously, Joecool, I feel bad for you dude. You are so obviously Steve Nakamura who got into the business, and quit, and now you're telling the whole world why you quit. It's not even funny, to be frank with you.

So now you are making a blog, denying that you are Steve Nakamura, when in fact, you are Steve; and now you are framing IBO Fight Back of Cyber Bullying and Cyber Stalking?

First of all, you guys deserved to be exposed. Especially since you, Joecool/Steve, are associated with illegal prostitution activities, you were simply asking to be exposed. It's your fault. People would not have the intention to find out who you are if you were not such a jerk and spreading lies in the first place. No matter how many times you lie, dude, the truth will always come out. You can only hide for so long.

So you blame Amway IBOs of being in a "cult."

That's true. They ARE in a cult. They are in a cult with an agenda to help bless other people's lives and set people free from the job world. They are in a cult to change people's lives an offer a great opportunity that improves health, finances, relationships, personal growth, and American Free Enterprise spirit.

It's funny, because Joe aka Steve thinks Amway IBOs are in a cult and makes it seem like a bad thing. Joecool/Steve is also in a cult. And in his cult, his agenda, he claims to be "spreading the truth about Amway IBOs." In actuality, his cult is just supreme jealously and because of his lack of character, integrity, and lack of honesty, he comes up with a brilliant idea to try to bring down Amway.

So anyways, I just think you could do something better with your life, Steve, get a girlfriend, go get laid, or find something better to do.

I'm gonna laugh if Steve Nakamura ends up being this one guy who is 95 years old in his Senior Retirement home STILL trying to put a futile effort into degrading Amway or Amway IBOs.

Yeah, I know Steve is gonna search up my IP and try to track me because he wants to know who I am, and he wants to know if I am affiliated with IBO Fight Back. I don't care if you figure out who I am, Steve, and just so you know, I don't even know who IBO Fight Back is.

But I know for sure, you are gonna spend at least 20 minutes trying to figure out who I am, then come up with another brilliant blog post or response and saying that I am

Honestly, I don't need to protect Amway's reputation, because they already got one, and can I tell you something? It's only gonna get better, bigger, and bless more people's lives and help more people become financially independent, WITH or WITHOUT you, Steve Nakamura.

Good luck Steve, but seriously, find something else to do.

Remember, the other "Anonymous" user post above is probably Steve/Joecool pretending to be someone else. Because Joecool/Steve is notoriously known for his fake personas and fake usernames pretending to be other people to boost his illusion of a credibility.

Tony Robinson said...

?...Aren't you the guy I had a private email conversation with last week because I have a copy of that email which I'm willing to share with you and which shows your name in the address bar of the email as being Steve Nakamura? on I

Joecool said...

That doesn't mean it's my real life name. Are you naive?

Joecool said...

Framing IBOfightback? How did I frame him? He's an OCD Amway apologist. As for you, all big talk but posting under anonymous. If you're squeaky clean, why post under anonymous?

Seriously, you and Steadson have problems. BTW, when you speak to IBOFB, tell him he owes me $50,000 USD.

Joecool said...

LOL, my specialty is serving up southern food. Afterall, Hawaii the the southernmost state in the union.

Tony Robinson said...

So! Let me get this straight! In replying to my question you deny you are Joecool! However in the the reply to Anonymous who describes you as a chef in Oahu you agree with him and even tell him your speciality is southern fried food! And yet at the start of this you inferred that IBOFB has made up the name of Steve Nakamura! on

Joecool said...

Tony, the person who said I'm a chef was joking and he's not anoynmous. His name is Daniel and I know him. I don't deny that I'm Joecool. I said my real life identity is not Steve Nakamura.

Joecool said...

Tony, see how a lack of comprehension affects perception?

Did I say "fried" food?

ibofightback said...

roflmao!

I provide page after page of evidence about you, and your response? Show where I'm wrong? Point out errors? Explain the evidence away?

Nope, you don't even bother trying, because you know you can't.

So the last refuge is ad hominem attacks and making stuff up.

Hidemyass? Please ... I'm a bit more sophisticated than that, and have far better ways of hiding my tracks if I want to. afaik I've never posted anonymously and any of your websites, including the ones with fake names.

Is Steve Nakamura a "fake" name of yours also? It's possible. But you used it on Facebook, MySpace and LinkedIn and Classmates and, of course, World Sex Guide, as well as on emails to various people.

In fact you've used it in so many places over so many years that even if it wasn't your "original" name, you've used it enough - including in contracts - to make it a common law name.

C'mon Steve. Show us where the evidence is wrong!

It's the problem with lying, Steve. You have to keep track of them all so you don't contradict yourself

Joecool said...

Please Dave, don't make me post the site meter tracker showing a filed attempt at you using hidemyass.com from from Sweden.

All you're done by posting this comment is proving without a doubt that you're a liar.

Steve Nakamura is not my real life identity. There is no common law name.

Please dear readers, note that David Steadson does not deny being a cyber bully and a cyber stalker.

Hey David, who the hell made you judge and jury to decide that someone has lost their right to privacy so you can post unreasonable private pieces of information about them?

Do you advertise that your kid was born out of wedlock or that your internet company did business with brothels and and gay greeting card companies? Maybe that should be said since you seem to have a "holier than thou" attitude.

Please don't make me post all the lies you spread to promote Amway.

Joecool said...

Oh look, David Steadson also tried to use hidemyass.com on my friend Rocket's blog also. What a freaking liar he is:

http://amthrax.wordpress.com/2012/04/20/pokorny-v-quixtar-class-action-settlement/

rocket PERMALINK
April 25, 2012 6:59 pm
Yes, I can and HAVE provided evidence of dishonesty and deception. Forgetful or selective? It’s there for all to see, and based on my hits from either Sweden or Hidemyass.com you know exactly what I’m talking about. Liar.

IBOFB is a creep said...

JoeCool, thanks for exposing IBOFB for the creep that he is. You're right that he has gone too far. I noticed that he is obsessed with your identity. Maybe it's because he was careless and got exposed himself. He is obviously lying about the hidemyass thing and good catch on IBOFB not denying that he's a stalker. Frankly, with IBOFB being affiliated with Amway just makes them look bad. If he's paid by Amway he should be fired. I just don't understand why someone living in Sweden, half way around the world from Ada Michigan would care about Amway in the first place.

Tony Robinson said...

How are you figuring that out? I am curious because I have nothing to hide! If you wish to contact me I am always available through my profile or email office@pitchwoodisland.co.uk

Joecool said...

Because your comments and writing style are suspicious with some comments I have read on other forums and blogs. Please stay on topic if you wish to have any comments published on this thread or on this blog for that matter.

Anonymous said...

fuckers just don't quit, do they, cool joe? lol smh

**proud Amway hater**

Joecool said...

You're correct. I don't know why IBOFB is obsessed with finding out who I am. He should fly to Hawaii and we can meet at Starbucks. He went to extraordinary lengths, beyond that of a reasonable person to search for and post information about a friend of mine who runs the Married to an Ambot blog.

Ironically, his one rebuttal here exposed him as a confirmed liar and he completely ignored the fact that he's a cyber bully and a cyber stalker.

Anonymous said...

I did a search on ibofightback + hidemyass.com and I believe joecool is truthful that ibofightback did use hidemyass.com.

It is crystal clear that ibofightback is a liar. That's the problem with lying, you have to keep track of them all so you don't contradict yourself, indeed.

ibofightback, I would find it quite ironic if joecool is truthful about not being named steve, and to find that you really are david. In that case, this war you are fighting with joecool for nothing with bad publicity for both, but only one being truly exposed as their true identity.

ironically, ibofightback insinuates that joecool is using ad hominems and making things up but never explains what was made up. he mentions the hidemyass.com issue, but i find that joecool was truthful about that issue. i find that joecool has more credibility than ibofightback.


Anonymous said...

Tony Robinson,

Not only can Chef Steve N. make a crackerjack Seaweed Salad, and other Southern specialties (the best, trust me), he's got the goods on all things Amway, WWDB, and Steadson. So why not just kick it and relax? All the best to you,

---Daniel

amwayscam said...

Why do we need to know the identities for that matter. I do not have any personal dealings with either pro-Amway or anti-Amway people. With whatever I have seen IBOFightback looked like either an Amway stakeholder or an IBO with high influence of systems. He has readymade answers for everything. Arguments do not feed my family, so I would rather stay away from proving anything.

Anonymous said...

LOL @ Anonymous August 26, 2012 8:26 PM

"That's true. They ARE in a cult. They are in a cult with an agenda to help bless other people's lives and set people free from the job world."

I thought he was some neutral observer at first but after that quote over there the true color of the amway scum shows itself. It's so DISGUSTING how anyone can give out such irresponsible promises to other people at the expense of their precious time and hard earned money. Though technically it's not their fault they became like that, I understand how those empty amway promises can be so enticing since I nearly fell for it myself. What a bunch of poor, benighted souls.

ibofightback said...

So Rocket admits he was getting no vists except from me and Tex (who admitted using hidemyass on his blog) huh? No wonder rocket doesn't blog anymore.

If you've got any evidence of me acting fraudulently as you do, go ahead and post it.

Joecool said...

Steadson, aka cyberstalker, get your head out of your smelly ass. I never said you were acting fraudulent. I said you were using hidemyass.com and it failed because my site meter picked it up.

This is the IP address you attempted to use it from:

(85.230.207.105)
Sweden, 4 returning visits

You're such a blatant liar that you've forgotten about your failed attempt at hiding your IP address.

Joecool said...

Check out this link:

http://amwaysoapbox.blogspot.com/2009/05/amway-apologists-revealed-as-jack-and.html

More IBOfightback picadillos!

Joecool said...

http://amwayscheme.blogspot.com/2009/05/amway-ibofightback-making-things-up.html

Here's where I first mentioned IBOFightback using hidemyass.com.

Ironically, the thread is titled "IBOFightbacl lying and making things up". LOL

Anonymous said...

Isn't cyber bullying and cyber stalking a crime? Maybe you should contact the authorities and throw his sorry ass in jail? IBOFIGHTBACK is a criminal.

ibofightback said...

ROFLMAO! That address is my current home, which I only bought a few months ago. You're claiming I used it to leave comments on your website years ago? Hilarious! Do you have an honest bone in your body? on

Joecool said...

Bullshit. Being that you've already been proven a liar, why would anyone believe you? I certainly don't.

Tony Robinson said...

Anyway I just thought I would share this exciting news with you! http://www.khq.com/story/1939928/amway-breaking-ground-on-quincy-processing-plant

Anonymous said...

IBOfightback should become a professional liar. Seems he's a champion at that!

Joecool said...

What's so exciting about it?

Joecool said...

IBOFightback is full of crap as usual. Notice he never refutes being a cyber bully or cyber stalker?

Joecool said...

Bredbandsbolaget Ab (85.230.207.105) [Label IP Address]
Stockholms Lan, Sweden, 4 returning visits

Date Time Type WebPage
11th August 2009 11:23:54 AM Page View www.google.com


LOL from by site meter. More convincing proof that IBOfightback is a shameless cyber stalker and LIAR.

Tony Robinson said...

Well it's exciting for Amway IBO's! While you guy's are too busy bitch-slapping each other the world is turning and Amway is growing bigger and more successful!

Joecool said...

What does that have to do with IBOFightback aka David Steadson being a confirmed liar, cyber bully and cyber stalker?

Anonymous said...

I'd like to bitchslap ibofightback. I can't believe this joker is still defending amway.

Joecool said...

BTW, before IBOfightback knew I had installed a site meter, he also posted under "anonymous". IBOFightback caught in another blatant lie. Seems like anytime this guys talks, he is lying.

Joecool said...

Identities are not important. But it was IBOFB who first went "sleuthing" and tried to threaten and Amway critic who went by the handle of "Lawdawg". He implied that he had figured out his real life identity. Ironically, IBOFB eventually got ouoted because he wasnt savvy enough to cover his tracks.

He has failed to identify my true identity and now owes me money as per the challenge on his TTAA forum.

Here's my evidence. Notice how many of the "pieces" of evidence IBOFB claims he found, such as linkedin, classmates, etc etc. Were any of these profiles created before or after 2007 when IBOFB allegedly found out my name? Therein lies the truth.

ibofightback said...

Bring it on!

Joecool said...

LOL, one thing I'll say. IBOfightback acts like a bitch. LOL

Anonymous said...

IBOFightback, big talk when you're in another part of the world. It is why you act like a bully behind a keyboard. In person you'll be cringing and whinging like a little school girl.

Joecool said...

I agree.

Joecool said...

I think it's well established that IBOFightback is a cyber bully. Someone from Amway even wrote an article about it. The lengths he went to expose Anna was beyond that of a reasonable person and I think that makes him a cyber stalker as well.

Anonymous said...

Joecool and Ibofightback,

I am willing to hold the $50k in escrow for each of you to settle the bet over whether Chef Steve Nakumura really is Steve Nakamura, aka the mercurial blogger with the savvy Amway/WWDB analysis and rapier wit.

BTW, Chef Steve really does know how to make a good seaweed salad, a Hawaiian specialty. Chef Steve knows the tricks of the trade - like how the seaweed should first be blanched in boiling water with a tablespoon of salt, then immediately removed and shocked in ice water.

Can you spot the $50k, Ibofightback? Trust me, Ibofightback - I'm a lawyer.

--Daniel

Joecool said...

IBOFightback is a chicken. All you'll hear is the crickets chirping.

Johny Marsh said...

IBO's step is right and there is a need of fightback against this Cyberbullying.

wayneo said...

I 'worked' for Scamway, way back in the seventies, producing the early cassette tapes for resale to the AmTrolls..who are forced to buy them. If they didn't, they're ostracized. I never became involved with their moronic Plan, because of the non-answers I received when I asked pointed questions. Of all the people I asked, not one was willing to produce hard numbers...just Amslogans. Now, this IBOfightback weenie: he is a coward, hiding in cyberland, therefore don't expect anything except empty threats. Personally, I hope he DOES show up at my house:I need the exercise, and stuffing this old Yager tape where the moon doesn't shine would please me greatly. Good luck to all of you..and keep after 'em..