Tuesday, November 9, 2010

WWDB 12 Years Later - Nothing Has Changed?

There's one Amway apologist named Bridgett Baron who continually likes to use "old" and "outdated" as her source of criticism against Amway critics. She uses this feeble excuse as a means to defend Amway and WWDB. She claims that things have changed and that critic's experiences are old and invalid. She says some of these things despite the fact that she participates on the blog of a WWDB IBO who is saying the same things I heard as an IBO over 12 years ago. Bridgett is either wrong or purposely distorting the truth, apparently. I recently had a WWDB IBO email me with current WWDB documents and I will be posting the details below. It is exactly the same stuff I was told as an IBO more than 12 years ago. Old habits die hard I guess. The only difference is that as an IBO, we did not use the internet. Basically the rest is the same VERBATIM. So much for Bridgett Baron's credibility. Not that she had credibility..... I don't think she's very smart. :-)

Here's the details from the WWDB IBO's documents:

4 STANDARDS
1. Membership with Amway Global
2. Meet the Bigger Team
3. Ditto on the First
4. Check your Team Website Daily and Listen to LIT Updates sent through e-mail

5 NIGHTS A WEEK
Build your business 5 nights a week!

9 CORE STEPS

1. STP 3-5x Each Week
2. Personal Circle (150PV Single/300PV Couples)
3. Customers (50PV Minimum)
4. Membership CD.s- Listen Daily
5. Read a Book from the Book List 15 min. Daily
6. Attend ALL Events / Game Day.s
7. Associate & Counsel regularly
8. Integrity & Accountability
9. Check your Team Website Daily and Listen to LIT Updates sent through e-mail

3 POWERS
1. Power of Agreement . this means be willing to listen & learn, submit your ego & be teachable.
2. Power of Unity . unity with your growing upline & the bigger Dream Team
3. Power of the Spoken Word . speak positively, expecting the best from yourself & your business

3 CARDINAL RULES
1. Never mess with anyone's money (Is bankruptcy messing with someone's money?)
2. Never mess with anyone's ego
3. Never mess with anyone's spouse

3 NEVERS
1. Never embarrass your upline, downline, or crossline
2. Never pass negative downline or crossline
3. Never do anything for the first time without checking upline

26 comments:

colin said...

I was involvolved 20 yrs ago and they had the same core steps you listed. We didnt have the internet back then but the rest you listed where the same. Bridget and insider are doing a horrible job distorting the truth. Since there's virtually no growth in north america with amway

Anonymous said...

I don't see a problem with any of the documents that you posted in this article. On the contrary, I clearly see a problem with you being vulgar, arrogant, liar, deceitful, unteachable, uncoachable and just a fine mess in all areas of your life. If you were given the chance to change, would you be ready, willing and determined to do whatever it takes?

Anonymous said...

i see someone who clearly HASN'T. gee, what a shock!

Joecool said...

Is Greg Duncan being involved with bankruptcy proceedings "messing with someone's money"?

Anonymous said...

So, Joecool, how would you answer that question?

Joecool said...

You mistakenly believe that I am obligated to answer your questions. My point is proven. WWDB still teaches the same bull now that they did 12 years ago.

Anonymous said...

Hmmm... I see, interesting. You mistakenly believe that people are obligated to accept your trash on faith without questioning your answers or intentions. Like a Sunday morning church TV evangelist. Hence you run this blog and many others. Yet you believe that you are not obligated to answer questions about your credibility. Seems pretty arrogant to me, doesn't it? Your point is proven. Sadly, not the one you intended to prove
You have not proven anything wrong about Amway. Everything that was said about the core steps, the standards and the rules sounds fine with me because I have enough common sense to evaluate their meaning and scope. Only people who lack common sense constantly find what's wrong with everything. They have to, else they wouldn't be called idiots for nothing.

Joecool said...

Anonymous loser from Canada, why don't you tell us who you are? Why do hide behind anonymous and other made up nicknames? Why do you leave threats on this blog like a coward? You didn't ask me questions about my credibility and even if you did, I have no obligation to answer an anonymous coward.

Yes, I haven't proven anything about Amway. But it shows that WWDB is still teaching the same BS that they taught 12 years ago, contrary to the claims of some IBOs and Amway apologists.

When you're ready to answer some of my questions, maybe I'll answer some of yours.

Joecool said...

BTW, care to name all the "many" blogs I run? And provide proof that I run them?

*crickets chirping*

Anonymous said...

anon = OWNED!

Anonymous said...

I see, we see. THANK YOU from the bottom of our hearts for confessing in your own words, at last, after all these years that

'Yes, I haven't proven anything about Amway. November 10, 2010 3:15 PM'

So, what do you have left then? The bullshit artist! Now don't go back to edit your words just like you did the last time. You're notoriously known for doing that. I print these pages and I show them to my friends. And they like to have fun when your name shows up. It feels pretty embarrassing to be caught with your pants down, masturbating behind the closet door. Ouch! (winks)

Joecool said...

'Yes, I haven't proven anything about Amway. November 10, 2010 3:15 PM'

That is in reference to THIS post. Are you on drugs? You're full of shit. Why don't you man up and tell the audience what you are trying to accomplish? Until then you're just a moron and a cowardly one at that who wants to make idle threats hiding behind your anonymous moniker. When you zip up your pants in the front like the rest of us, then we can talk.

Anonymous said...

Oh, I see, it's in reference to THIS post. How clever! How can you not say that it's in reference to ALL your years old posts when it clearly proves the point? You simply do a phenomenal job at being a bullshit artist! And by the way, women do not zip up their pants like you men do. We have different needs than you in case you haven't figured it out yet -:) So keep doing your thing behind the closet door babe!

Joecool said...

Anon from Canada, you're getting to be a bore. My posts are all here, nothing to prove or disprove. I write artioles and readers can make their own conclusions. You just cannot handle the truth so you get your panties in a wad.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous from Canada, if you don't like what Joe writes, why don't you avoid this blog? I know why your here. What Joe is writing is true and your nerve endings are feeling the pain from reading the truth about your business. That's really what your mad about.

Chris G said...

So things have not changed much in 20 years. I believe because the system still works so well for the upline who profit from it why change! It sucks the downline does not get a share...I was told they dont get a cut since they have not achieved the platinum level. I guess if you work hard to make it to that level they feel you can get your cut of the "system". Its a lot of money to spend to get to that level. ($50 a month for recommended subscription) The lowest price is $35. My advice get to Platinum ASAP to get profit from the system.

Joecool said...

Even at platinum, your share of tools is a pittance. You only get a price break (last I heard) from the standing orders. There's no cut from the functions, open meetings and other tools.

Anonymous said...

You don't have to wait until you reach platinum to get paid, we got paid the first month we started!

Anonymous said...

You guys are highly misinformed. Why don't you try it and they form an opinion?

Anonymous said...

man aren't you a world-class dipshit. why do you think joe's been writing this blog for the last 5 years?!

Anonymous said...

I have only been doing it for 6 months now, Products are great! Even if I was not trying to build a business I would use the product and suggest others to use as well. With that I have decided to capitalize on suggesting others to use the great products. There are products we use every day any way.. so why not make money doing it.. you dont even have to be a business builder to get the tax advantages in buying your own product.. its a no brainer.

Anonymous said...

Whether or not the products are great is a matter of opinion You're entitled to yours and I'm entitled to mine And my opinion is that they are overpriced Thank you and have a good day :)

Anonymous said...

incorrect statement, amway growth within the united stated is still going up, however the market in canada has exponetially exploded.There are amazing people making huge world changes within canada

Anonymous said...

amazing liars making huge world changes that negatively impact people's lives in the long run. cut the crap, will ya?!

Anonymous said...

I love this!

Anonymous said...

that's 'cause you're a sucker. :)